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He had 0 forced fumbles. only 1.5 sacks. and only 5.5 tackles for loss all season. If you go back and watch the highlights all of the interceptions were literally thrown right to him or off of tipped balls. What's everyone's thoughts on this?
Wow thats a valid point.
I wouldve assumed he had 2-3 FF, 5-9 sacks, 15+ TFL based on all the hype. I haven't watched ND play at all this year.
He's the emotional leader brah
I wish he was playing the MLB spot for us but I'm honestly surprised he's even going to NY let alone having a legit shot at the trophy.
Really don't get the hype around him. I mean if we're going of emotions the why didn't Eric Legrand win? I mean 46 solo tackles, 1.5 sacks and no defensive TDs? No way he should get it.
This post was edited by crlGFX 19 months ago
I'm pretty sure our backup LB's have better stats than that. The Heisman is a joke
"Because Bama now sucks just like FSU used to suck when we were getting dominated by OU. Does it make sense now?"- Sliger (FSU Fan)
if Suh didn't get it, no way Te'o should get it
85 total tackles, 20.5 TFL, and 12 sacks. Add in one of the most dominating performances by a defensive player ever against Texas in the Big 12 title game in 2009.
No. Media hype for not so great numbers
completely agree....Suh was a monster
Teo doesnt strike much fear into me
I feel awful about his grandmother/girlfriends passing away in the same week, but that doesn't warrant winning the Heisman trophy. I'm there are numerous FBS players dealing with equally awful situations this year. I know he plays for the #1 team in the country, but does he deserve the alleged most prestigious award in college football? Absolutely not.
Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams,
telling myself it's not as hard as it seems - Led Zeppelin
The Heisman is pretty much a popularity contest as we have all seen... not sure why a lot of you struggle to see why Te'o would be included in the discussion.
Maybe other defenders have better stats, but no one comes close to the combo of stats and national attention on that side of the ball.
Sure we all know a lot of other LB's in his league, but at this point... people who barely follow football have heard of Manti Te'o.
Te’o's 7 interceptions are the highest number of interceptions by a linebacker of the last twelve years. To give you an idea of how remarkable an achievement that is, there isn’t one other linebacker in the top 20 in interceptions and the next closest linebacker has just 4 interceptions. Te’o is tied for the lead in takeaways nationally (interceptions and fumbles recovered) with 9 (the other two leaders are defensive backs). Additionally, there isn’t a linebacker on record who has 7 interceptions and 100 tackles in a year (at least that we can find.) While some may look at Te’o's lack of sacks and/or tackles for loss, it’s important to note that he was asked to play a completely different role this year. When asked to play that role last year he had 5.5 sacks and 12.5 tackles for loss. Those are outside linebacker numbers from the middle linebacker position. Ironically, pass coverage was supposed to be his one weakness coming into this year. Te’o played against many early Heisman candidates… who weren’t candidates after they played Notre Dame including Bell, Robinson, Taylor, Lee and Jones. If the criteria is “outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity“, it’s hard to argue any player has been more “outstanding while exhibiting the pursuit of excellence with integrity”, than Manti Te’o.
Scored 4 touchdowns...in a single game. Polk High!
He saved three kids, who almost drown during their bubble bath, so he will win...
Since teo is so great at ints he should switch to safety because the stats most important for MLB he is mediocre at best
Robinson and Jones were out of the Heisman race before they played ND. Especially Robinson. He was out of it after the first game.
This post was edited by Aussie 19 months ago
..and yet he is projected as the first or second LB selected in the draft. Read what I cut and pasted above. He has had those "MLB" numbers the last 2 years. This year he was asked to cover more TEs, etc and has obviously shown he is great at that as well. Being as ND is 1st in the nation in scoring defense, I would say he was doing what the coaches needed him to do in order for the Defense to best succeed.
Apparently his numbers were impressive enough to win the Lombardi, Nagurski, and Butkus awards.
This post was edited by dpfenny 19 months ago
No FF's raises an eyebrow, but the INT's thing is no big deal. How do most LB's get INT's? On balls thrown to them or tipped passes. If the QB is throwing it right to them, that means they're in the right spot. They also still have to catch these passes. PSU's MLB Glenn Carson had a pass thrown right to him in OT against Wisconsin and dropped it with his stone hands. These guys are defensive players for a reason.
Now, I don't know that he deserves to win the Heisman. But I don't think you can just dismiss his INT's as being thrown to him or being tipped passes.
No. He's a great player but not Heisman worthy. The problem is the voters are lazy as sh*t, don't pay attention, and jump on whatever bandwagon ESPN tells them to jump on.
Manziel put up better numbers than Tebow and Cam when they won. I remember when people were absolutely FLOORED by the numbers those two guys put up and both times couldn't see anyone topping them. Manziel did. He's your winner.
...or it could be with 3 players doing it so close together that it is not as big a feat as once thought. For years and year the 4000 passing benchmark was huge in the NFL. Now just a few years later many make it each year. No doubt his numbers are still impressive but just because a player broke a 2 year old record that by itself doesn't make a player Heisman worthy. Heck he is not even first in total offense this year. Fact is there are three players that are invited and a case can be made for each.
Heisman Trust Mission Statement
The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, and hard work. The Heisman Trophy Trust ensures the continuation and integrity of this award. The Trust, furthermore, has a charitable mission to support amateur athletics and to provide greater opportunities to the youth of our country. Our goal through these charitable endeavors is for the Heisman Trophy to symbolize the fostering of a sense of community responsibility and service to our youth, especially those disadvantaged or afflicted. All assets of the Trust beyond the expense of maintaining the annual presentation of the Heisman Memorial Trophy are reserved for such charitable causes. The Trustees, who all serve pro bono, are guided by a devotion to college football and are committed to community service and the valued tradition which the Trophy represents.
Butkus, Lombardi, Nagurski, and First Team All-American committee members and established voters think you are dumb.
Keep obsessing - it's entertaining
What is his signature play then?
Pitt kicker missing the field goal? Stanford RB crossing the goal line? USC wr dropping the ball?
Serious question. If he didn't play for ND would he have been invited to NY? Let's say he played for another team without the media hype/attention/coverage/whatever that ND gets and puts up those numbers. Would he be a Heisman candidate then?
"Isn't it amazing what somebody will do when he can't bunt." - Vin Scully
Great LB, yes? Heisman worthy? No.
Then again, there really isn't anyone that is absolutely screaming to be a heisman trophy winner.
Time and change will surely (truly) show
How firm thy friendship ... OHIO!
Hahahaha - I love it.
If Teo wins - choose a tall bridge to jump from....
On any 12-0 team where the defense carried the team.....yeah
It also helps to kill a Heisman hopeful's chances with 2 pics
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