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Im sure he means $1800 a month. Regardless of exact figures, he is right about the concept, though. More kids = more money..
How in the world does she get $1,800 per child?
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You could potentially look at it another way. Look at countries that have freest market economies, the purest forms of capitalism, and provide little to zero social assistance. Hong Kong on a per capita basis has the most high net worth individuals anywhere and the largest or second largest wealth band in the world. Sure the wealth gap is enormous but the poverty band is very small.
Granted, the poor are so destitute that they make Brazilian favela residents look loaded, so there is that...
Not much more, you will get an max of $200 extra per kid in most states in food assistance, and in most states there is a maximum amount of time in a lifetime you can receive cash assistance. You also won't be getting near $1000 per child.
I'm not saying your way doesn't work. I am saying "socialism" as some of you like to put it, isn't the devil. It doesn't create a lazy country, that is bullshit republican propaganda that evidently many of posters here have bought into.
I admit it: I hate the poor. Let's just completely do away with welfare. Think about it as survival of the fittest.
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It's not "my way" per se. Just saying that in the places with the 'purest' free market economies tend to have the highest GDP per capita. No way could it work here, because, you know, we have souls and actually care about the less fortunate.
True blanket socialism blows and does not encourage growth. But social services isn't socialism. And Canada isn't socialist by any stretch of the imagination.
Tell me, what is it that you do?
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Even money Obama has 18 holes in before Sunday evening.
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No it wouldn't be like using Monaco or Luxembourg. Absolute apples and oranges. There are more people living on one block in HK than the entirety of Lux and Mon combined. Not to mention people actually work for a living in HK. Also HK has some of the lowest tax rates in the world, but it's not considered a 'tax haven'.
But yes, obviously HK doesn't exactly scale well to the US
I work here everyday. I see the parents and kids both in my public high school where I work and at my kids' daycare school everyday. Your perception of things as former student is way, way off.
So, what do you do?
And how's this for a rule - since 2008, free- and reduced-lunch in this county has increased by 15%. There's 13 elementary schools in this county who are at 90% or more. You think that's perception and exception?
Those are people who are getting it handed to them. Those numbers are increasing, not going down.
Facts sure do suck, don't they?
Let's let all the poor kids starve to Death then IMO.
I'm not saying we should give more or less welfare either way, but might there be a correlation between the increasing number of people needing things like reduced lunch prices and the decline of the economy?
If you think that 90% of 13 elementary schools in Gwinnett County ACTUALLY need it, then you're detached. Those numbers may come down, but once they get on, it's hard to get them off.
What part of Gwinnett County? I've been looking for an apartment in N/NE ATL and looked extensively all overy Gwinnett, DeKalb, and Fulton Counties and all of them had plenty of... less than stellar neighborhoods.
Talk about hilariously bad examples. Anyone that has a fundamental grasp of economics laughs at Sweden.
Sweden's entitlement state has been a real winner. Before they introduced their ludicrously high marginal tax rates it had the most screaming economy in the free world. 50% of their richest citizens have bailed. Really works miracles with their treasury. And what happened when the working class were saddled with 50-70% rates?
They worked less, retired earlier, took more disability, took more unemployment and for longer periods, took more sick days and took more vacations. It crushed their growth.
Of course there is. Just like we saw an astronomical increase in people who are on welfare from 2008 to now.
We live up at the Hamilton Mill exit, one exit N of Mall of Ga. Lots in the housing rental market.
Of course not, but do you not see a correlation?
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Where did I say they were causes of each other?
And you still haven't said what it is that you do ...
Come on man. It's like everyone on here has take things to extremes.
I'm sure you've heard this: When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for ... you have some serious challenges.
Yes, but the only reason PPP GDP is now up again in Sweden is because they have all but abandoned their previous universal care model.
The Swedish model was a complete fail, and even though they've turned away from it to a large extent they're still suffering from the hold over policies.
What we truly strive for in the US I'm not sure is even possible. Taxing the 1% at a higher rate does nothing. You have to hammer the majority with higher rates to provide all the care/education/social services we want to provide. Yet higher taxes stunts growth and too many entitlements kills productivity. Somewhere in there lays a balance...
I couldn't care less about the demographics. The fact of the matter is that over half this county students receive government-assisted food benefits, and that number is going up. That's keeping with the trend that we see in overall government assistance at 47 million people, which Hussein doesn't argue.
The numbers don't lie. People are hopping on the gravy train.
Student, huh ...
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