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To plead the 5th tomorrow...
Why remain silent if youve done nothing illegal? Lock her up.
Unless a statement waiving the 5th was signed as part of the job, that is their right. With that being said, I think that such a waiver should be standard for any senior federal position.
On a related note let us assume the best reasonable situation for each scandal.
1 - WH had no knowledge of the IRS targeting select groups, but it is still in the executive branch.
2 - WH/PBHO is not the one that gave the order for General Hamm to stand down troops from going in to help those in Benghazi. Again, it had to be someone within a step or two of PBHO that gave the order as there are not a lot of people between the president and a 4-star theatre commander.
3 - WH had no knowledge of the request for AP phone/email records. Still the justice dept is run by a PBHO appointee.
If you buy the best case scenario for PBHO, it is easy to justify firing him if he were a CEO or military commander (one scandal would be enough in the military). At best PBHO is a pathetic excuse for a leader and at worst he makes Nixon look like an honest man.
If people under your command screw up, you screwed up. If things go well, you give the credit to the team. That is leadership 101 and his complete lack of taking responsibility for darn near any negative thing is proof positive to me that he is not fit to coach a 10-year old basketball team, much less lead the free world. I don't care how you feel about his politics, if you can't see his gaping faults as a leader, then you are more biased politically than the worst of us are on here with respect to our college team.
So if I am audited by the IRS, I can say sorry or plead the 5th and I am covered, right?
My son's message to Obama, Clemson, and Georgia
Only good I can see out of it is that this woman is history. Unfortunately, I don't doubt that these marching orders to target conservative groups came from the White house.
The acting director just told us it was an honest mistake due to high workload. I know I'd plead the 5th to keep my honest error from becoming public.
The messiah can try to keep people quiet until they can find out a way to spin this, but this thing is unraveling quickly.
Not commenting specifically on this case, but there are tons of reasons to plead the 5th.
I've never killed anyone, but if cops come to my door asking about the murder of Jon/Jane Doe, I plead the 5th no questions asked.
Well yeah because you don't know shit about what they're talking about. She's had weeks to prepare testimony, and has chosen not to incriminate herself.
Would do the same thing if I was ever brought in on something.
Of course you would. Liberals would do literally anything The Holy one will tell them
If you committed murder then of course. If you didn't and you had an alibi, why the hell would you plead the 5th? That's stupid. That's basically saying that you are not innocent but will not cooperate. They'd leave you alone faster if you cooperated and proved your innocence.
Isn't it that classic debate of, "If I haven't done anything wrong, what do I have to hide?" vs., "If I haven't done anything wrong, what business of my life is it to them?"
In this case, the business of her life is very much relevant to the American people. She was the friggin head of the IRS. What a joke.
If I was guilty of murdering someone, I'd refuse to take the stand and have a friend testify on an alibi.
If I was innocent of murdering someone, I'd also refuse to take the stand and have whoever I was with testify on an alibi.
Hell no am I sitting on the stand and letting an attourney grill me. They are really good at it. I'm not stupid, but I'm pretty much positive I'd slip up on something, and even if I didn't, they could find a witness to contradict me.
I guess it depends on the situation. My point is "stonewall them and make them think that I have something to hide" vs "show them that I am innocent and make sure it never goes to trial and Id never have a chance to plead the 5th".
But this is a public official in front of congress. This isn't a murder case. This is going to be awful. Congressman are going to launch bombs, and shes going to say that she remains silent so as to not incriminate herself.
That's all I gotta say.
Freaking pathetic. This administration is a damn joke.
It's about to get a lot worse if what I just read about Benghazi is true
You reading the blaze?
Stephens was in Libya to open talks to buy back missiles the State department had sold to AQ linked groups. Benghazi has now pivoted into an Iran-Contra feeling.
So not only has Obama out spent every American president combined before him, he has also out scandaled every American president combined before him.
This post was edited by NLeininger 14 months ago
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what do you suggest?
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damn that was some drama if yall were watching
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