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Nah, I'll pass, thanks though.
Go Blue & Gig Em'!
He ranks top 50 in 1 stat and that's INT's... If you we're starting a D, who would you pick, Clowney, Jones or Teo?
That is true, a Heisman winner is most often a qb or rb, sometimes a wr. With one exception it is an award based on offensive production. That does not mean the winner is the best player in the nation....unless you believe only one time in the last 77 years has a defensive player been the best player in the nation.
Scored 4 touchdowns...in a single game. Polk High!
So you just threw out a name without having any idea of their stats?
That's tough. I'd probably go with Clowney.
you sure ain't getting any pu$$y
3 time POTW, member since 2006, MLWTI: 4-3
I agree that it's historically been an offensive award and that it doesn't always go to the nations best player regardless of position. I do believe that it's easier for a QB, RB or WR to win the Heisman because of the impact that they make on the game versus a defensive player. That's why I disagree about Teo being in the Heisman discussion. I don't think an ILB can have a Heisman level impact on a game, the same way that Manziel has at QB. An ILB just doesn't have as many opportunities in a game to make an impact like a QB or RB. I do believe that Teo is an AA, a great role model and the top ILB, I just don't think he's the top overall D player. He will succeed in the NFL and most likely be a perennial Pro-Bowler.
Not from you, stop offering...
we all know your trolling, hoping someone takes the bate. you miserable fvck
I thought you already did...
talking about you trolling for something else other than pu$$y
Read my post a little bit up the page. I agree about Teo being good and I gave Teo compliments. Irishyoung420 just has something stuck up his a$$ or maybe he doesn't(maybe that's the problem).
This does not compute for me. What else is there to troll for? Teach me.
Absolutely Te'o. A great team leader and a great middle linebacker. Clowney and Jones are great pass rushers. There are many great pass rushers. Are they the leaders of their teams? How many great defenses are built around their pass rushing specialist? Te'o far and away has the most ints of any linebacker in the nation. He is second in the nation among linebackers for passes defended.
How many categories does Jones rank in the top 50? If that is the parameter, then Shazier is better than all of them.
he can't help it
Ah, I forgot about Shazier, he's a hell of a player too.
Be happy homie.
can't help you with anything ghey. I'm sure there are many people you can consult with in your backyard
So who is the other player on ND's D you claim is better? You make shit up with no facts and then call me an idiot when you are called on it? w/jw
As for Manziel winning the Heisman, I fully expect him to win. Only an idiot would think a defensive player would win when it has happened ONE time in 77 years. LOL at you "calling me out" when he wins. What are you 12?
This post was edited by dpfenny 19 months ago
Just amazed at how people can't give credit when its due.
I'm lost, what are we talking about again?
Oh, I see, you're right. I didn't say Teo was a great player, the top ILB in the nation, future NFL player and perennial Pro-Bowler. Silly me, what was I thinking.
I've moved on. Next...
thanks for giving credit
Go look back a page or 2, I already said all of that...
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