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Yep. I've always thought 12 years for legislators. 2 terms in Senate, 6 terms in the house. More than enough for everyone.
Hell we can even grandfather in current politicians, but as you said there should be term limits
You put way too much stock in social issues.
You can't figure out that you lost the election this year because of social issues.
Didn't realize troytide was on the ballot
No problem at all my man, just remember No tax money to send ya. Pay your own way hippie...
These issues aren't going to be at the forefront of every election forever and ever.
Unless the Republicans keep shooting themselves in the foot by bringing them up. Romney did a pretty good job of trying to avoid them and focus on foreign and economic policy but the legitimate rape guy and other Republicans killed him.
But then again you can't ignore your beliefs for political expediency, that shows low character.
At any rate I think these issues will become less of an issue naturally . Gay marriage is happening around the world and I think that will be accepted as a fact of life in a few years. But something like abortion is never going to go away though.
I don't see how term limits create a non-partisan environment. With each consecutive term you serve you generally become safer when it comes to election time. As a result, you are more likely to take risks and betray your supporters by reaching across the aisle. If all the seats are always up for grabs I don't see anyone cooperating and a lot of contentious, ruthless campaigns being run.
Just because they don't matter to a middle class white male doesn't mean they don't matter to others.
This is why Repubs lost the election. Adapt or your party and its message will die.
You make a good point, never thought about it like that.
Don't mean to be that guy, but the founding fathers weren't the ones who came up with term limits.
After Washington stepped down after two terms it became a precedent and a well supported idea that it should be two and done, but it wasn't in the letter of the law. I'm pretty sure it became official after FDR and WW2.
We desperately need a third, more moderate party in this country. That'll never happen, but we need one. The two political parties are too polarizing.
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
What if the general populace actually approve of Obama?
Exactly. If that's who they want they should have him. I would probably kill myself if he got a third term, but still it should be an option.
"If you're young and conservative you have no heart; if you're old and liberal you have no brain." -Winston Churchill.
Democrats usually do, while Republicans typically place too much stock in economic issues.
The typical party identification comes from what you (or usually what your parents) believe to be the most important issue of the day. Those that find social issues the most important issue tend to be democratic, while those that find economic issues the most important tend to be republican. Issue ownership, regardless of how people actually feel about either party before researching into their valued issues.
Quickest fix for the Republicans would be to change their position on immigration. That would please the Hispanic voting block that has typicall been Democratic the last few elections and would basically turn the tables on the Dems.
Would literally save their party in an election cycle, no joke. Many of the moronic Reps in Congress now would never stand for it though.
Just part of democracy. We're victim to the opinion of others, and no longer have the defense of state governments to defend personal interests.
Our government structure is a different topic for a different day though, and would be futile regardless seeing as it's essentially theory vs. theory.
Anyhow, politics today are far from what the founding fathers intended. They never wanted career politicians, and they didn't want only two parties participating in politics.
fiscally, our country is being sold out from under us all.
then our dummies are being spoon-fed retardedness from each of the parties.
now, we have this.
interesting to see that the partisan idiocy has continued in this thread.
i guess the title of this thread should be "how can we turn this democrat train around?"
meanwhile, all you stupids that still believe in the system, the one that is a plutocracy, or corporatocracy, well, you all continue to let this idiocy happen.
god, i gotta get out of this country
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Yep. I hear Canada is lovely this time of year.
did you know they have lower taxes up there?
bet you didn't.
yer one of the dipshits, aren't you.
Disagree. Term limits would drastically help out the system. Someone who has not been in Washington is less likely to be influenced by lobbyists and such that are helping keep them there. A person "freshly" elected is more likely to stand for the views of his constituents. Like the other poster said and I've stated on here before, the founding fathers didn't intend on politics being a career.
term limits have also been shown to cut down on the "network graft" and chronyism... "Recent Illinois polls suggest the public believes that long tenure creates opportunities for the office holders to partner with special interests and to pursue agendas inconsistent with the public interest. Such reforms as term limits are argued for due to their potential in changing these relationship dynamics."
"It would seem, therefore, that this constitutional safeguard may no longer serve its original purpose, especially when, as we learned last year, some acts of perjury may now be acceptable—in this world, at least, if not the next. Under the circumstances, may I suggest another means of encouraging probity in elective office. I refer to term limitations, which can serve ends beyond that of saving congressional souls. Once it becomes impossible for members of Congress to make a career of legislative service, the temptation to bend a vote for whatever reason may yield to the better angels of their nature. They may then be willing to cast principled votes based on an educated understanding of the public interest in the face of polls suggesting that the public itself may have quite a different understanding of where its interest lies."
it might also be the one last ditch effort to stop this country from being a full-blown kleptocracy.
That's exactly one of the things I was referring to. These relationships with lobbyists and special interest groups don't happen overnight. One of these groups does a politician a favor or 2 and then the politician may not be serving his constituents' best interest. It's real clear to see how term limits would cut down on corruption.
Which social issues do you feel lost the election for the Republicans?
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