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Gene Chizik beat Nick Saban.
How many Cincy games have you watched? If it is more than 0, I will be shocked.
He was given a turd at Cincy after Kelly left (all the good players graduated) and he quickly got them back to 10 wins in just his second season. And he did so with the worst facilities in the BE and very, very little talent.
With Cam Newton and Gus Malzahn
Key words being Big East. Winning the big east is nothing special. Does he even have recruiting ties to the South? Pretty sure he doesn't. Most fans will tell you they settled, and it will definitely put them behind the 8 balls for years to come.
I appreciate your outlook. Of all the Vol fans I've talked to, around the office and on the boards, you're the only one that shares that optimism. Most are embarrassed that you just built all those nice facilities, and end up settling with your 8th choice in Butch Jones.
In Florida he does, but he is going to make a push in Ohio which is just as rich as any state not named Florida in the south. This whole recruiting ties thing is stupid. Al Golden did have any ties to SoFlo before he came in and started crushing.
Comparing Butch Jones to Dooley is laughable.
In fact, Butch Jones and Derek Dooley couldn't be anymore different.
Yes. He will go into Ohio with Urban Meyer there and raid the state.
FWIW Miami is currently second to last in the ACC in recruiting, and 76th in the nation. Recruiting ties are very important. Especially in the SEC.
Ohio St can only get so many kids, and Urban already is making an effort to make OSU a national recruiter. This year, of their 17 recruits only 7 are from Ohio.
As for Golden, we all know why Miami is down and it isn't his ability to recruit. How many other programs have ever passed on TWO consecutive bowls because they knew the hammer was coming?
My point is Golden is smack dab in a recruiting hotbed, and isn't exactly killing it. From what I know of Jones, he's all north. Born and raised in Michigan, and coached in Michigan. Had some time at WV, but not much. Has zero ties to the south from what I've seen.
And Urban's top 5 Ohio recruits are ranked the following in state: 1,2,4,10,14. The rest of the elite Ohio talent is heading to Michigan. I highly doubt Jones does much good in Ohio. If anything, he gets scraps.
So what happens with Sal Sunseri? Will he be retained? Do Tennessee fans even want him to be retained?
-Thanks for that
People laughed at Cheezedcik and $180k later........he ballin'.
I guess Brian Kelly is a shitty coach then
Butch Jones. Who???
It's certainly not the hire Tennessee fans were expecting.
That said, I think it's worth giving him a chance. I know I hated the Bill O'Brien hire at first (and many, many people thought it was a huge fail for PSU), but now I can't say enough good things about the job he's done at PSU.
I also tend to prefer up-and-comers in general when it comes to coaches.
Kelly is one..name another. Also, I'd wager Kelly gets taken to the woodshed by Saban in the NC. ND also doesn't play in the SEC...Tennessee does.
You make it sound like the SEC has great teams from top to bottom.
"And then they offered me ownership of the Browns"
Six teams are capable of beating anyone in the nation. Considering there were three legit teams in each division this year, that's pretty solid. In college football one loss can doom you. UTjr. draws Bama every year, and still has to play UGA, UF and S Car.
That picture is gold.
6 teams capable of beating anyone in the nation? Bullshit.
wait. you don't think on any given day that A&M, Bama, LSU, UF, SCAR, and UGA could beat anyone? they all beat each other throughout the season, so who do you leave out?
You point is stupid because last year, Golden killed it in southern Florida. This year, more info came out and things look very bad moving forward. If you don't get why they are down, then I can't help you.
Florida, A&M, SCAR, and UGA. LSU and Bama are probably the only ones that could beat anyone in the nation, LSU being borderline at that.
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