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No mentions of Master P?
Jay-Z and it's not close. He is the total package.
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2 Pac is hands down the greatest rapper of all time. Name one who has had such an impact on rap music or who is more well known.
Camp Lo was pretty hot. That album, I think it was Uptown Saturday Night was pretty tight. Wonder what ever happened to them. That album was fire.
What does being well known have anything to do with your skill as a rapper?
Master P, my earlier post was obviously sarcasm, was the most well known rapper for almost a decade and he fvcking sucked. I'm not saying that 2-Pac sucks or anything like that, but saying that he's hands down the greatest rapper because he's so well known is dumb IMO.
There are a lot of rappers that have had just as much if not more of an impact on rap music to make it what it is today. At least as widely accepted as it is today, or for making it something that 2-Pac wanted to pursue it as an artist.
Name a rapper today more known than lil wayne? Just because he is well known doesnt mean he's the best.
This post was edited by TAMUWolverine 16 months ago
He's easily the best.
He's the most influential rapper ever.
I got downvoted earlier, but Eminem is far and away the best lyricist. He rhymes words that don't even rhyme and his delivery creates a rhythm that is unmatched.
LOL like who?
2PAC has a college class/course about him at CAL.
There is a class taught about Lady Gaga at South Carolina...doesn't make her the best singer ever
This post was edited by joetheogre 16 months ago
Easily the most overrated rapper of all time. Not even top 5 imo.
I was thinking more along the lines of the actual people that created hip hop, those that made it accessible to more of the public widespread in the late 80's and early 90's (which Pac and Biggie dominate), and the people like Kanye and Jay-Z that have made it as fashionable as it is to even white america on an even wider scale today.
2-Pac is certainly ONE of the most influential hip hop artists of all time. I'm just saying that it's tough to say that he's "hands down" the most influential hip hop artist of all time. You have to look at all aspects from it's beginnings to what it has become.
Let it be known that I said he was definitely top five earlier in this thread for his contributions. I don't think he's the best lyricist for sure. But all the other contributions that he's made puts him in my top five. I just go by pure talent when I pick my "greatest of all time".
This post was edited by RATT 16 months ago
Rakim is the most influential. He completely changed hip-hop.
Whom I also stated was my personal "greatest rapper of all time" on the first page ITT. It seems like me and you are on the same page. I have no problem with anyone thinking 2-Pac is the greatest of all time in their own opinions. I mean it's not as outlandish as saying that Celine Dion is the greatest singer of all time because of all the tickets she's sold and money she's made. At least there is an argument to be made in Pac's case.
I think it just depends on your criteria.
Me, personally, value lyricism a lot and that is the main thing I look for in a rapper. I just don't think Tupac is on the level of Nas, Biggie, Rakim, and some others from a lyricism standpoint which is why I don't have Tupac in my top 5. Of course lyricism is not the only thing that makes a rapper great, but it's the main thing I look for.
My top 5:
Ghost Face Khilla
didn't dv you but, no I disagree. Lol Wayne does the same but no way is he anywhere near the top. Biggie doesn't belong either, his catalog isn't big enough.
No one can match Tupac's passion, and his love for music. But like most have said, there have been many who are much more lyrical.
Kendrick Lamar is quickly becoming one of the best ever IMO. Not there yet though.
And Wayne is total garbage.
KL is rising fast everything I have heard from him over the last few years has been dope True artist, TDE overall has some nice talent. Watch out for kembe x, chance the rapper and vic mensa in the future.
I like Pac, but he's not the best rapper ever. Him and Biggie probably had the biggest influence on rap and most artists in the genre today would say that they listened to them growing up. There are plenty of artists with much better lyrical abilities, though. They've all been stated itt.
"I was brought in here to change the culture. I'm going to coach with passion" - Fran McCaffery.
people on here saying someone is the best rapper just because he was the most influential need to understand those words better.
Chuck Berry influenced rock and roll more than anyone in the history of music, but hes not the GOAT. Its silly to think that way
This post was edited by beardown2489 16 months ago
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