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I say no. Two in 6 years is impressive, along with the 4 straight appearances and 15 years of top 5 finishes but I don't constitute that as a dynasty. Compared to other dynasty FSU falls way short.
Brutal attempt. Go back to BOL.
yeah, that was pretty bad. You need to go back to trolling school, or catch up on some new trainings....smh
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first. define dynasty?
wins? win%? titles? conf titles?
anybody who's team name begins with A, and ends in labama
Why yes, yes they were a dynasty.
To me a dynasty is defined by reaching the TOP of your respective sport multiple of times within a defined time frame. I use a measure of 10 years. With that being said here a few Dynasties:
Miami of the 80's
Dallas Cowboys of the 90's
Nebraska of the 90's
Yankees of the 90's, 30's and overall as an orginazation
Steerlers of the 70's
Cowboys of the 70's
The SEC in the BCS era
UCLA Wooden era
LSU Baseball in the 90's
49ers in the 80's
Lakers in the 80's
Celtics in Bill Russell's era
Braves in the 90's
Bill in the 90's
FSU in the 90's
Kentucky Basketball 96-98
This post was edited by klong2005 2 years ago
When Florida state was good I was 10
if 90's nebraska is a dynasty, fsu is also.
fsu trumps them in almost all categories for the 90's as a whole, except national titles in which it is 3 to 2.
wins and win%:
1. Florida St. (109-13-1)--0.89024 (37.84-15.24) (827-483-9)--0.63040
2. Nebraska (108-16-1)--0.86800 (38.94-15.33) (774-535-20)--0.58992
fsu leads both
1 Florida St. 8
2 Nebraska 7
major (bcs) bowl appearances (both went to bowls all 10 years):
1 Florida St. 9
2 Nebraska 8
Florida St. (8-2-0)--0.80000
and they did it vs tough competition as well.
vs bowl teams:
1. Florida St. (49-13-1)--0.78571
2. Nebraska (39-14-1)--0.73148
# of games played vs bowl teams:
fsu played the 2nd most bowl opponent at 63
neb wasn't in top 25 for most bowl opp at 54
vs top 25 (year end rank) opp:
1. Florida St. (38-12-1)--0.75490
2. Nebraska (28-15-1)--0.64773
fsu played 2nd most year end ranked teams at 51
neb was 11th at 44
top 10 finishes:
1 Florida St. 10
3 Nebraska 6
top 5 finished:
1 Florida St. 10
2 Nebraska 5
1 Nebraska 3
2 Florida St. 2
also, those #1 and #2's are national rankings. these 2 ranked 1/2 in all those categories nationally.
and the only category neb is better in is the one that is subjective. we didn't even have the bcs for most of the time frame, and for the 2 years we did, fsu won it one of those years.
fsu is clearly a dynasty by your criteria. arguably the best ever in cfb as these #'s compare very well to any other team's decade dynasties (i didn't present them here, but i have before and they were among the best #'s for any decade for any team.)
I try to not be a homer, but it's hard to deny Nebraska's run in the 1990's.
Final rankings/record by year: (AP Vote)
1990 9-3 #17
1991 9-2-1 #15 (Big 8 Champion)
1992 9-3 #14 (Big 8 Champion)
1993 11-1 #3 (Big 8 Champion, lost National Championship, FSU)
1994 13-0 #1 (Won National Championship)
1995 12-0 #1 (Won National Championship)
1996 11-2 #6
1997 13-0 #2 ("Split" National Championship with Michigan)
1998 9-4 #19
1999 12-1 #3 (Big 12 Champions)
nebraska run in the 90's was epic, particularly the 5 years of 93-97.
only lost 3 games in 5 years.
won 3 titles, all undefeated. and played for another losing only that 1 game.
"worst" season was an 11-2 #6 ranked season.
not only did they win, but they won with ease.
won games by and average of 28+ ppg during that time (high was 38+ppg 95, low was 20+ ppg in 93)
EDIT: just realized i didn't post anything new except the ppg stat. but just to reiterate, it was a good run, lol.
This post was edited by theharbinater 2 years ago
Yeah it was an amazing run. Not trying to discredit FSU, just tooting my own horn.
Well the OP has been completly owned in this thread
IMO, you must win at least a few titles in a short time period to be considered a dynasty. FSU won 2 titles in 6 years...not a dynasty. They had an amazing run and won many ACC titles but do you consider a team that wins a bunch of divisional titles in pro sports a dynasty? I don't. I'm a Braves fan but don't consider their 14 year run of NL East titles a dynasty. Gotta be THE champ at least a few times, they only got 1 ring.
Nebraska in the 90's was a dynasty. Florida and Alabama recently are close but kinda screwed each other. Bama still has a shot to become one. Miami in the 80's-early 90's was a dynasty. USC a few years ago was close but I don't see that as a dynasty either.
Yankees in the late 90's-early 00's is another good example of a true dynasty. Cowboys in the 90's, Patriots in the early 00's.
Did you read this thread, because we pretty much own Nebraska in the 90's in the majority of categories except titles. Plus you have to have luck to win titles, and we ran into some buzzsaws, because we played for 5 titles, but only got two. One in 96 Florida got a lucky rematch with FSU, and the majority of our team was sick. The other in 98 we lost Chirs Weinke against Tennessee, and had to go with our third string QB. In 2000 we lost our best receiver Snoop Minnis to suspension and Mark Richt had one foot out the door heading to UGA. Even Richt has admitted over the years he was not focused in that game, and should have told Bowden he should not have called the game.
Hey we could not help that the BCS loved us back then
Wow what? Then please explain to us what a dynasty consists of.
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Look it isn't even debatable. FSU was a dynasty in the 90s. Flat out.
Anyone who disagrees is just trolling because this is a fact.
And UF only got that rematch in '96-'97 because Nebraska got punked by Texas in the Big 12 Title Game.
Also, wire-to-wire #1, 1999.
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sure its a dynasty i mean 15 yrs in top 5 is impressive no matter how you slice it and bowden made fsu just like spurrier made uf
lol noles fans still talkin about being sick? lol come on we kicked yalls ass it was a BEATDOWN
This post was edited by TravisFLAx8 2 years ago
Of course they were. Last I checked Notre Dame had more wins than Alabama did since 2000. That is not a dynasty.
I look at dynasties being more long term. No doubt FSU was a dominant team of the '90s but so was Nebraska.
They were what they were and a designation can't make them more important or lessen their achievements.
Looks like another perfect day.
Did you read my comments? I consider dynasties to be teams that won at least 3 titles in a short time span. FSU did not do that.
I don't consider FSU in the 90's a dynasty. They won 2 titles separated by more than a few years. Doesn't make a dynasty, IMO. You disagree, obviously.
Who said anything about Alabama since 2000 being a dynasty big guy?
Right now, Alabama is close to having a dynasty. In the past 4 seasons, Alabama is 48-6 with 2 national titles. If we win another national title in the next 3 years or so, I think that will qualify as a dynasty. That would be 3 national titles in the span of about 5-6 years...if Bama wins it again this year, it is easily a dynasty. FSU has everything but the titles but to me that's the biggest part of a dynasty and without it...no dynasty. It just depends on how you define it.
Yes I disagree with you along with most his thread and the media.
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