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preach on brother
3 time POTW, member since 2006, MLWTI: 4-3
This post is asinine and I can't take it seriously. Ohio State and Michigan are both in the top 5 for all time wins. You don't get more blue blood than that.
You can't be serious with pro sports being different... ND is like the fricking C'Boys. I grew up in CA and knew probably 3 people that actually went to ND - but I knew/know unlimited numbers of their fans. Especially if you went to a Catholic HS - automatic ND fan for life.
In my experience fans of ND or SC of my parents generation hate each other with a passion. All this mutual respect that keeps getting waived about, especially by some of the older types ITT, I never, ever saw growing up.
Why you're not seeing it is probably because of your age, where you live, and ND has been shit sando for so long it's kind of muted its impact.
Cal-Stanford is a great, great rivalry but it would be meaningless (and laughable) to anyone who wasn't an alumni or lived in the Bay Area. SC-ND though... There is so much history of mutual success, mutual disdain, and so many games over years and years where so much was riding on the outcome... That's the definition of epic rivalry.
I hate them because they are plugged on Sportscenter/ESPN way too much. This year I have no problem with it because they are good, but when they were going 6-6 it was annoying to hear them talked about so much.
I'm glad they didn't get Gameday. I wouldn't want that university to be portrayed in a positive light.
Yet they are the most hated team in America. Without "living next door" to to each other. How can that be? According to you a rivalry is not a rivalry unless the two fanbases can harass each other at work, etc. You hate ND yet claim you only know 2 or 3 fans. There can be plenty of passion on both sides without working together, etc. Of course, as the poster above stated, there are plenty of ND fans in Southern California.
Scored 4 touchdowns...in a single game. Polk High!
To put it in perspective...the 2003/2004/2005 teams received a lot of accolades from the various sports publications like SI, SN, ESPN - "Program of the Decade", "Player of the Decade", etc. Our boys were interviewed, Leinart, Steve Smith, RB, LenDale White, Ryan Kalil, Sam Baker..defensive guys..all said that of all those games - including the NCs, no other win in that 37-2 legacy, no win meant more than USC/Notre Dame 2005.
"The Comeback", 4th&9" and so many other references to those great rivalry games are known and valued by every true Trojan alum/fan, and the stories told over and over.
"Here are provided seats of meditative joy, where shall rise again the destined reign of Troy." Virgil
People that blindly hate Notre Dame (non rival), hate the true power the university holds..unmatched - much less achieved by a tiny private school in the middle of nowhere.
The history of the Jeweled Shillelagh:
"The trophy was originally presented in 1952 by the Notre Dame Alumni Club of Los Angeles, stating that "this shillelagh will serve to symbolize in part the high tradition, the keen rivalry and above all the sincere respect which these two great universities have for each other."
There are tons of Notre Dame alumni in Southern California..and fans in every Catholic school (and there are a lot!) in the state.
This Friday, both alums/fanbases will gather at the Bonaventure Hotel for our traditional, joint scholarship fundraiser. The proceeds are split between the schools, we sit side by side - Trojans and Irish, toasting the rivalry and listening to our former players and coaches talk about their experiences in the rivalry. Joe Montana, Ronnie Lott..it goes on and on.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by usctrojan1 17 months ago
Agreed. 1896-1941 was a terrible time for me.
Had to take time and give this a +1. From what I have read, you are easily one of the more level headed, rationale, informed and objective posters on this board. Well done sir.
What is happiness? The feeling that power is growing, that resistance is overcome.--Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
The Archdiocese of Los Angeles is the largest in the country. The bi-annual luncheon hosted by the ND Club of LA is always a standing room only sellout! The game itself is almost always a sellout.
I guess you have to be old enough to appreciate this game for what it was, what it is and what it will always be. It is the greatest intersectional rivalry in college football. Between the two schools there are 22 National Championships and 14 Heisman winners.
If you watch this game and don't understand the impact it had on what college football has become, you don't know jack shit about college football.
It is one of my favorite games to watch and on the bucket list of games I hope to attend. I only wish Keith Jackson was calling the game.
So yes, dumbass, this is as real as any rivalry gets and takes second place to none.
..All Americans, most NFL draft picks, most Pro Football HOFers.
Ahhh..one of my top.favorite guys. If you ever make it down, you will always get a ticket and food.
This post was edited by usctrojan1 17 months ago
Georgia Boy is brilliant, well educated, sophisticated and worldly for a "country boy"....my kind of guy!
I smell tBB romance in the air!
Move over GONIG and Bo!
I have been Trojanized by the long shapely legs, beautiful smile and brilliant mind of a USC educated woman.
But still, I can close my eyes and hear "Conquest" playing in the background while Keith Jackson gives the play by play. No one game influenced my love of college football more than this one.
I assume this is a troll, but just in case not, um Yes.
They used to take the train back and forth to play!
Ahhh, I could be his mama. There was an ESPN National Board, far superior to this one..with truly knowledgeable CFB fans from many of the big programs.
Georgia Boy was one..you had to respect his wide ranging knowledge, dignity and respect for the game. BeBucks was also one of the members, and we welcome his big 'ol Buckeye self at our tailgates and he sits with all the die-hard Trojan crazies. We all made some valuable friends from that board.
Wahhhhh - guy at work talks shit about my team losing. Must be such an intense rivalry! I really hate losing to Montana State! Go Grizzlies!
Dude, there's tons of rivalries where the proximity of the teams/programs causes daily interactions with the teams' fans. You really think Louisville-Kentucky is "really a rivalry" in college football? Nobody gives a flying F.
Also, clearly rivalries did not exist until your friends rooting for the other team could talk shit to you by posting on your Facebook. That's such intense rivalry shittalk! ZOMG!
(Also, the guy who pointed out the Lakers-Celtics rivalry gave a great example. Why is it a rivalry? Because those teams have gone up against each other for the title so many times. It's the same deal with USC-ND and college football, except then you add Heisman Trophies, etc.)
And now that I mention it, now I understand why Bama fans are so butthurt about the USC-ND rivalry. All those years and 1 Heisman trophy winner. You mad bro? Go burn some historic trees. Because you know, you're such awesome rivals that that will epitomize how awesome your rivalry is.
*EDIT* Just saw a post where OP said he's not a Bama fan. Ok. My bad. Bama comment still stands, but just isn't directed to you.
This post was edited by theknuckleUSC 17 months ago
Can you get out here before Saturday.
I'm pretty sure I can score a ticket for you.
Looks like another perfect day.
what about me?
6 is very few.
I know 100-200 Clemson fans. I know probably double the number of South Carolina fans. Of all of my friends, I would say about 80-90 percent have an allegiance one way or the other.
Our rivalry is rarely if ever significant nationally, but the hatred is there and people have this game circled on their calender all year.
this is true. I see it.
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