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The relevant nationally part?
the carolina/clemson hatred. (my wife is from s.carolina and went to clemson)
3 time POTW, member since 2006, MLWTI: 4-3
The hatred is VERY deep. There is a lot of bad blood there
yes it is. It's very intense.
Sorry...forgot about Ohio State, Michigan. Yep pure blue blood. I must have forgotten because Ohio State is on probation, so I am forbidden to vote for them in anything.
Speaking as a Trojan the ND/USC rivalry is VERY real. Our two primary rivalries go something like this:
We hope UCLA loses every game they play and then loses to us - we just want them to fail at everything they do because we have no respect for their TERRIBLE culture and their type of mediocrity (sans our terrible season this year) should never be rewarded.
We hope ND wins every game they play and then loses to us - we respect them as a school and a football program and want them to do well so the rivalry remains great. When we play ND we want to smash and embarrass a great opponent.
In short, UCLA is an annoyance to be dealt with. Notre Dame is an opportunity to conquer a great rival.
Cry Havoc; and let slip the dogs of war!
Almost always a sell out. Tells me all I need to know about this "great" rivalry these two fanbases care so much about. LA has a billion people and they don't sell out many of their games at USC, including the ND game.
The level of passion and intensity does not approach that of the Iron Bowl and our games (especially lately) have meant a lot on the national scale. Thus, the Iron Bowl is a better rivalry. Hell, outside of this year and a few between 03-05 when has the USC-ND meant anything to the national title race the last 20-25 years? ND has blown much of the past 20 years and USC was extremely medicore in the 90's.
Look, I appreciate the two programs for what they are (or what they used to be in ND's case, this year they're a paper tiger). The titles, Heismans, tradition...all great. The rivalry itself is more of a celebration of all that than a heated rivalry as compared to others. I think it's more Masters or Wimbledon than a great rivalry.
That's a good way to put it.
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This post was edited by GeorgiaBoy 20 months ago
Get a room..
I wouldn't be surprised if more people tuned into the USC/Notre Dame game than tuned into the National Championship game between Alabama and LSU...even though USC is unranked.
Game Day will show up to a stadium where the fans couldn't care less about their show...sell out crowd that places more importance on tailgating and socializing than standing around with stupid signs to be seen on TV. We have that every day if we want....ESPN WC headquarters is just down the street...
"Here are provided seats of meditative joy, where shall rise again the destined reign of Troy." Virgil
Since it is soirrelevant nationally, is it a rivalry?
If a tree falls in the woods but noone sees or hears it, did it happen?
I live in State College PA about 2 miles from Beaver Stadium at PSU. Knowing 6 USC fans (3 grads) in the heart of Nittany lion Territory is a decent amount.
God, some of these people are absolutely clueless..I don't know one Gator fan/alum, Alabama fan/alum, LSU fan/alum, Tennessee fan/alum out here, not one. Lots of Domers, Buckeyes, Wolverines, Texas (the real Texas school), Oklahoma, etc are well represented...few SEC fans.
Are you coming out for the game Leppy? If so, pm me..you're welcome to our tailgate.
Here's to a great injury free game!
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by usctrojan1 20 months ago
I think one indication of whether it's a rivalry occurred last night at my house.
My daughter's friend (huge Notre Dame fan) skyped her from Afghanistan where he had just gotten back in from a weeks rotation on patrol and he insisted she get me to talk about the game. This guy has been humping around that shit hole for a week and all he wanted to do was talk USC-ND football.
There were several other soldiers in the background either yelling "Fight On" or "Go Irish". Yeah it's no rivalry.
Looks like another perfect day.
I wish I could - truly appreciate the offer. Would be a lot of fun.
These guys from the south struggle with the concept that College Football has existed for over 130 years or more. The average SEC fan seems to think it started 5 years ago.
USC and ND travelled via Train to meet each other on the field back in the 1920's when Knute Rockne and Gwynn Wison helped put college football into the national spotlight as it was odd for a team in the mid west to travel to California for regular season games.
I am jealous that I cannot experience the atmosphere at the coliseum Sat night.
Have a blast
Game has been irrelevant for decades.
The only people that care are the 50 year old fogies that grew up in the age when Notre dame football was relevant.
Yes that's why this thread is about to go 5 pages.
Your program has never been relevant...don't worry, your fellow SEC honks will jump on to say you're a good program simply because you beat their only blue blood.
A program that was a dumpster fire in the BIG-12, all of a sudden is a powerhouse in the SEC? You can be proud of your perversion for jizzjars, and wacko-sicko, testicle grabbing, psuedo-military rituals....
This post was edited by usctrojan1 20 months ago
You are mad.
Well the only people defending it are USC/nd fans.
I know you are a half wit Texan but read the entire thread and there are Bama fans,Georgia fans and others agreeing it's a great rivalry.
I think you and bhieilly share a brain and it's being shipped back and forth between you most of the time.
Bama fan with a USC dad and georgia fan with a USC wife. Next.
Once you've been to a USC-ND game in South Bend and in L.A. you'll never stop believing it's a real rivalry.
As a USC grad who's only ever lived in the western U.S. I've known lots of Notre Dame fans. Half of my family is Catholic so I'm related to more than a few ND grads. I can count all of the Alabama and Auburn fans I've ever met in my life on one hand. USC and ND fans are spread out far and wide.
I live in Oregon these days and sometimes I feel like the Ducks/Beavers rivalry is actually tempered by the need to be civil when everybody works with everyone else all the time.
No one claims relationships with a cock...
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