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Is SEC overrated?

  • Final AP Poll had 5 SEC teams in top 10. All but Bama had only 2 losses and LSU finished @ 14 with 3 losses! You make it thru the SEC with only 2 - 3 losses you have Accomplished something! Name another Conference you can say that about. Check out http://masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm
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  • TheBigSpur

    Bodhi

    Uhhh, yea Keith. Did you really just link a thread where we can only read 2 responses? Solid troll?

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  • TheBigSpur

    Bodhi

    Nothing funnier than a guy whose team went from being ranked #1 to getting stomped by GT telling you something is overrated. You can't make that kind of stuff up. Remember that only the SEC teams being overrated all season benefits other teams by association. Playing the #1 team(who actually sucks at football) would only help SEC teams SOS, not PACs. roflmao

    This post was edited by Bodhi 14 months ago

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  • AuburnUndercover

    Sig Spearfisher

    yeah I wouldn't bet on that... we've had a NCAA anal probe for the last 3 years and they've found nothing...

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  • TheBigSpur

    Bodhi

    Yea man, Auburn won that round. Not sure that is coming back up again. Its not like they are looking for information. His dad admitted to pimping him out, the NCAA just said they wouldn't hate on Cecil's game.

    This post was edited by Bodhi 14 months ago

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  • *Does conference affiliation matter to prospects? That depends on the prospect. To Top247 defensive end Andrew Williams of Georgia, it's important. And to him, it helps the SEC schools recruiting him and admittedly hurts the ACC programs a little. He's a big Clemson target, so that is probably news the Tigers don't want to hear.
    "I love SEC football," Williams said. "It's a big thing."
    According to Williams, how the Tigers do this upcoming season vs. Georgia and South Carolina matters to him. "Absolutely, beating Georgia will help," Williams said. "One thing [Clemson assistant Marion] Hobby and I have talked about is how they had UGA coming up, and South Carolina, which is supposed to be really good. He's saying if they go out and compete, and beat them it shows the world they're SEC-capable."
    http://247sports.com/Article/ACC-Rec...Clemson-129123

  • In the last 25 drafts, NFL teams have selected more players from the SEC than any other league.

    The SEC has now won seven BCS titles in a row.

    The SEC has won nine of the 15 BCS titles handed out all-time. That’s 60% of all national crowns since 1998. (What if undefeated Auburn had gotten a BCS invite in 2004 rather than Southern Cal, a team that has since been stripped of its title?)

    The SEC is 9-1 in the BCS Championship Game and the only defeat came at the hands of another SEC foe (Alabama’s win over LSU last year). To beat an SEC team in the BCS title bout you have to invite another SEC team.

    The average margin of victory when an SEC team faces a team from another conference in the BCS title game is a whopping 14 points. And during the league’s 2006-2012 run, the average margin of victory when the SEC faces another league in the title game has been 17 points.

    In BCS title games the SEC has beaten the ACC, the Pac-12, the Big Ten twice, the Big XII three times, and an independent.

    In the BCS era the SEC has dominated not only the title game, but all bowl games. The SEC’s overall postseason winning percentage during that span is 59%. No other major conference — ACC, Big Ten, Big XII, or Pac-12 — has a winning record for that period.
    On a hyper-local level, this website launched in 2008 and there has never been a day in this site’s history that an SEC program was not the defending national champion in football.

    Alabama lost to LSU during the 2011 regular season. Alabama, LSU, Mississippi State and Kentucky all played Auburn to within a touchdown in 2010. In 2009, Alabama needed a last-second field goal block against Tennessee and a five-point Iron Bowl win to secure its spot in the BCS title game. In 2008, Florida lost on its home field to Ole Miss, leading to Tim Tebow’s promise and an eventual BCS championship. The 2007 LSU team beat Florida by four, beat Auburn by six, beat Tennessee by seven, and lost to Kentucky and Arkansas… before coasting by Ohio State in the BCS title game. And going all the way back to 2006, Florida escaped Tennessee with a one-point win, topped LSU by a field goal, lost to Auburn, beat Georgia by a touchdown, beat Vanderbilt by six points, and edged past South Carolina by a point before torching Ohio State by 27 points in national championship game.

  • BamaOnLine

    MacGruber

    This guy is the alternate version of NCAAAssassin. I approve.

  • Last season the sec played 42 OOC games vs lower tier conferences and 1AA teams, going 40-2. Big-10 played 31 going 27-4.

    PAC-12 played only 24 (and 9 of those 24 were against MWC teams) going 18-6 (4 losses vs MWC).

    When you are compiling a bunch of wins vs garbage, it inflates teams records, which in terms inflates rankings and perception.

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  • Selective re-caps by another 'hater'..
    Dude.. Bring somethin new to the board.

  • TheBigSpur

    Bodhi

    roflmao. So jelly it hurts

    Did you really just make fun of the SEC for beating ACC teams? roflmao. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that better than losing to them?

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  • BamaOnLine

    Brian Henry

    Are 28 point wins over Notre Dame and Michigan decent OOC wins? Do those count?

  • TheBigSpur

    Bodhi

    double-digit win over top 10 Clemson and a win over top 25 Michigan for us..... Nothing to see here!

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  • BamaOnLine

    Brian Henry

    Over the past 5 seasons here is the Alabama record vs Top 25 OOC opponents

    2008 - W : #9 Clemson (34-10)
    2008 - L : #6 Utah (31-17)
    2009 - W : #7 Virginia Tech (34-24)
    2009 - W : #2 Texas (37-21)
    2010 - W : #18 Penn State (24-3)
    2010 - W : #9 Michigan State (49-7)
    2011 - W : @ #23 Penn State (27-11)
    2012 - W : #8 Michigan (41-14)
    2012 - W : #1 Notre Dame (42-14)

    Out side of the Utah loss, average score of a game for Alabama vs a Top 25 OOC opponent : 36-13, or 3+ touchdowns. And all of those teams but 2 were ranked in the top 10 at the time of matchup.

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  • TheBigSpur

    Bodhi

    Waiting for those are not the postseason rankings.....

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  • BamaOnLine

    Brian Henry

    2008 - Clemson UR, Utah #2
    2009 - Virginia Tech #10, Texas #2
    2010 - Penn State UR, Michigan State #14 (drop totally based on annihilation at hands of Alabama)
    2011 - Penn State UR
    2012 - Michigan #24, Notre Dame #4

  • I see jealousy is causing some to go full retard in this thread. Line yours up in order from best to worst and we'll beat 'em 2/3 of the time or more. Everyone knows it.

  • That reasoning is pretty faulty.
    Here's Stoops' long quote on why the SEC isn't really all that, from the Tulsa World:
    "So you're listening to a lot of propaganda that gets fed out to you," he said. "You're more than smart enough to figure it out. Again, you can look at the top two, three, four, five, six teams, and you can look at the bottom six, seven, eight, whatever they are. How well are they all doing?
    "What'd we (the Big 12) have, eight of 10 teams in bowl games this year? Again, you figure it all out."
    This comes down to a pretty simple math problem. For all SEC games, there has to be a .500 record at the end. If Alabama, Texas A&M, Florida, South Carolina, LSU and Georgia are all among the top 10 or so strongest teams in the nation, as they were last year, and Vanderbilt, Mississippi State and Ole Miss get into bowl games, as they did, some teams are eating a lot of losses. No, coach, the entire conference can't be good at once. It's mathematically impossible.
    There were five SEC teams that didn't go to a bowl game last year. They are ...
    • Missouri, which went to seven straight bowl games its final seven years in the Big 12. Its first SEC season, it went 5-7 and missed out. That seems relevant to the conversation.
    • Tennessee, which has been to 49 bowl games, from 1981-2010 missed qualifying for a bowl just three times and won a national championship at the end of the 1998 season. Yes, Derek Dooley struggled in a tough conference and was fired, but is Tennessee really the doormat Stoops is talking about?
    • Auburn, which won a national championship 28 months ago.
    • Arkansas, which was ranked 12th at the end of the 2010 season, fifth at the end of the 2011 season and probably would have been at least top five in the 2012 preseason poll (the Razorbacks were 10th) had it not been for the Bobby Petrino fiasco. They struggled mightily last season, but there were decent reasons why. And again, with six of the best teams in the nation at top of the conference, someone has to lose.
    • Kentucky, which is kind of a basketball school. The Wildcats don't care much about football. Stoops should recognize schools like this, considering he plays in the same conference as Kansas.
    So that's your list of also-rans that Stoops thinks drags down the SEC. A couple relatively recent national champions, a perennial bowl team when it was in the Big 12, a team that is one season removed from being ranked fifth in the nation, and the 2012 national basketball champions.
    Stoops apparently thinks other conference's doormats are far better than that. Did Indiana win a national title a few years ago? Has Duke played in 49 bowl games? Again, when you play in a conference which is so good at the top, the bottom has to lose some games. The SEC has to end up with a cumulative .500 record in conference games. Simple math. And we haven't even gotten into the national championships streak or the NFL draft record the SEC just set. Stoops at least owns up to the fact that's legitimate. He should know, considering Texas A&M blasted his team in the Cotton Bowl this past January. The rest of Stoops' argument is wrong, but at least he's correct on that elite teams part of it.
    We're not picking on Stoops. He's a great coach with a great program. He has one of the few programs that could go to the SEC and compete every year. That's the best compliment we can give him.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/bob-stoops-thinks-tales-sec-dominance-propoganda-193521063.html