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I can't stand that music either. But I'm more of a funk/jazz/classic rock music fan.
If WSP is anything like DMB, then I'm out.
You don't think Phish and the Dead are jam bands?
That's why we wander and follow La Vie Dansante...
Mostly old school stuff. Temptations, Bob Dylan, Stevie Wonder, The Band, Alabama, CCR. Don't listen to much new stuff with the exception of Eric Church and a few others.
All good choices... love me some Dylan. I won't hate on the jam bands though.... they are just having a good time playing music and hopefully making a living. Probably thinking F off if you don't like it.
I always find it funny to hear people bash music of any kind. Music is supposed to be diverse in nature. There is always something that you can enjoy if you search long enough.
I love people that hate on a certain band for this reason or that reason. It's not a competition for those guys, but if it was, bands like WSP and DMB are certainly winning big time.
WSP has been touring for 26 years, sells out theaters and arenas and started the biggest annual festival this nation has ever seen in Bonnarroo and have headlined the festival more than twice as many times than any other band. I wish I sucked so bad that I could have achieved that along with owning the record for consecutive sellouts at a place as renowned as Red Rocks.
DMB has been going at if for just over 20 years and is one of the few bands that have been able to achieve both underground and mainstream success at the same time. That is extremely impressive, IMO.
For the most part, people want to hate on what's popular or something they don't understand. I am not a huge country fan, but it is the largest single genre out there, so they are definitely doing something right.
Didn't know WSP started Bonnarroo... good for them
If you ever toured with the grateful dead, you might know something about Jam bands... you might. Phish is close but not the same thing. The appreciation of the jam band culture begins with the LIVE scene. Although, some have the opinion that the jam band died in 95.
I miss Jerry still. Saw the Grateful Dead about 125 times through the 80's and thankfully caught them in Birmingham in '95 on the last tour. That was my first one in 4 years. Been to Further a couple of times and it's fun, but the vibe is gone.
Nothing has reached what the Dead did as far as beauty, grace, and the darkside of music. Phish isn't anywhere near the same for me. They are good, but so different musically (probaby more individually talented). Panic is more like the Allmans, but with more of an improv appeal. I do think that Panic has more of a family type atmosphere/following like the Dead had, but some of that is probably due to Michael Houser's death putting things in a different perspective for the band and loyal fans.
Jam Bands are about the live experience. I personally love jam bands. I am going to another Dave concert in a couple of months and the great thing is I know that it won't be the same concert that I have been to before. Not only is the playlist different but also the songs themselve will be different (whether by adding a different instrument or by changing the song in some way). I listen to Jam bands almost all day every day, but the key is to not listen to recorded albums. I only listen to live albums and they never get old to me.
I have noticed most people hate Jam bands because they just want something to hate. The reason why we all listen to music is to admire the talent playing it (whether that is vocal talent or instrumental talent). Jam bands are not known for vocals but intruments and if you let yourself admire the intrumental talent in jam bands and admire that some of these are guys are not only great at 1 instrument but 5 different instruments, I think you would understand why some people enjoy them. Personally, I prefer a song to be about the rythym and the sound rather than have vocals at all. I think this is why I prefer Jam bands. Just my 2 cents.
Oh no he didn't
Wow and what do you listen to? What do you think mainstream music is today? Im not as big into Jam Bands as I use to be but at least their music is pure. They arent creating rap beats on Mac Book and then talking fast into a mic, singing about how they smacked their girl and their dog ran away, or having other people right all their music. Rap and a lot of country music is whats wrong with the music scene. Todays rap "music" is the most pathetic shit I've ever heard, old school stuff I like.
The are similar to the Allman bros. except i feel their music has a little humor in it. I wouldn't call them quite a Zappa/Allman mix but a watered down version of that. WSP is an awesome live experince. Even when I was following bands like Umphreys, North Mississippi, Yonder I wasn't a big WSP fan. Then I saw them live and that changed everything.
This post was edited by PIIHB RNP 2 years ago
Think we can all agree on this. Rap today is terrible. 90's rap was that cat's pajamas.
It's sad that people like Soldier Boy can make millions of dollars on such terrible music.
Not really, their music does have jam/long/improv elements, of course. But the Grateful Dead is a blues band at it's core and Phish is...well, something between Rock/Jazz/and goofy Zappa like music. When I think jam band, I think of moe., String Cheese Incident, Disco Biscuits, and others of the sort. Most Dead and Phish songs are pretty short and to the point. Those other bands seem to meander forever on every song. I used to really dig that stuff, but not so much anymore.
I consider myself a capitalist hippie so I respect them. Just don't care for their music, never have. But, I don't have any problem with them making a boatload of money off of Mercedes driving parents of college kids. I like some "jam bands" just not WSP. Love Robert Randolph. Listen to a lot of Black Crowes.
Black Crowes are a top 5 band for me, and an amazing live act.
Boy if I had a nickel. This is *the* go to stereotype when it comes to the jam genre.
This post was edited by ksred 2 years ago
Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams,
telling myself it's not as hard as it seems - Led Zeppelin
125 experiences- wow!! I bet no two jams were the same. I came to the realization of what a jam means to me during my first JGB show. Jerry did Dont let go and went off. I still get goosebumps everytime I hear that song no matter who covers it.
Thats cool. At least you understand that you can respect music without liking it. Im not a Bob Dylan fan but I would be a fool to not respect his talents.
I'm sure folks know about this, but if you don't, check out the Grateful Dead on the Live Music Archive. Tons of streamable SBD recordings and equally as many downloadable AUD recordings.
Edit: It's always fun to listen to one of the 'Shows on this Day'. Used to do this every Saturday and Sunday morning, the perfect way to wake up w/ some coffee.
Welcome to the Grateful Dead collection Here you will find both: Downloadable Shows (typically, Audience recordings), and Stream-Only Shows (typically, Soundboard recordings). At this time, the Grateful Dead collection is not open to public uploads. function...
This post was edited by A2Wolverines 2 years ago
I figured it out.
Jam bands are a mid 30s and up thing.
All of the jam bands are really based off of blues rock chord progressions with some jazz thrown in. Most of what the jam bands formed around was the same basics that started the British Invasion and what made the 60's so great: Southern Black Music. They were guys that weren't pretty and poppy enough for Motown, but not white enough for mainstream music. The music was accepted in England and Germany and led to many of the greats that came from there (Beatles, Animals, The Who, The Clash, The Police, and the Rolling Stones). If you listen to the great "House of the Rising Sun" by the Animals, it is hard to think that this was written and performed by a punch of teenage white boys from England that had never even been to the United States, but were describing a city that they had only heard stories about.
The jam bands are basically keeping that type of blues music alive that was so wonderfully paired up with the improvisational influences that jazz had on those Southern black musicians.
A band like the North Mississippi Allstars got famous by playing the late, great R.L. Burnside's music that he played in the old juke joints in Mississippi.
Robert Randolph: Another fabulous musician introduced to the world in 2002, by none other than Widespread Panic.
That is what the jam band scene is about: Helping each other out and introducing new music to different audiences.
I remember the original H.O.R.D.E. tour (1992) that took off before the capitalists got a hold of it and ruined it. You had 4 bands. Blues Traveler, Phish, Widespread Panic, and the Spin Doctors. They were going to tour together to allow their regional audiences to hear the other acts in hopes of broadening all of their audiences at the same time. It was a huge success, by the way and a ton of fun. The next year, Widespread Panic refused to do the tour without the band Aquarium Rescue Unit (featuring Col. Bruce Hampton and Jimmy Herring) and Phish would not go along without the Dave Matthews Band. The promoters agreed to add them to the label and the traveling festival became even bigger.
Even after the founding members left, other bands joined on to continued success (although the promoters were keeping all the money and is why the original acts left in the first place). These bands included, 311, the Allman Brothers Band (reason for their return to popularity in the 90's), Beck, Ween, Rusted Root, Wilco, Smashing Pumpkins, Primus, The Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Gov't Mule, Cowboy Mouth, The Black Crowes, Ben Harper, and many more.
This traveling tour was the inspiration when Widespread Panic got together with Superfly Productions to help put together the first Bonnaroo. They wanted a festival that could bring in big name headlining acts that would help introduce an audience to new music, except in would be an annual event, instead of a traveling tour.
That first Bonnaroo was headlined by Widespread Panic (2 nights) and the Trey Anastasio Band. The event, for one, got Phil Lesh and Bob Weir back together which got Further on the road years later, and introduced a larger audience to acts such as the String Cheese Incident, Robert Randolph, Ben Harper, John Butler Trio, Particle, moe, Nora Jones, and Donna the Buffalo.
The next year, more music was brought in like Ben Kweller, the Flaming Lips, Jason Mraz, My Morning Jacket, Nickel Creek, O,A,R,, The Roots, Topaz, Yonder Mountain String Band, and more. That festival was headlined by Neil Young, Widespread Panic, and the Grateful Dead (playing at The Dead).
Say what you want about the jam band scene, but the type of musice doesn't matter as long as it's interesting. The best part of these festival is and always will be the SuperJam stages in which members of many different bands get up on the same stage and collaberate together. Some of it's great and some doesn't work as much, but it is always exciting to see what happens. Music doesn't have to be planned and perfected 100 times before it is put on stage to perform the same show over and over and over again.
In the South, bands like WSP and Phish have enormous followings from college kids. When I was in school at Auburn, I had friends who were going to Panic shows about every other weekend. That band might not have "commercial" success but they have made so much money. They sold out Phillips Arena in Atlanta like 50 times in a row over a few years and I would guess that was almost entirely 18-28 year olds.
This post was edited by Big A 2 years ago
Listening to some Leftover Salmon right now. Not really a jam band, but definitely popular in the same circles.
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