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I am much older than that and have a bunch of friends that go with me to the shows still. I remember seeing those guys in bars with less than 50 people in the 80's.
Definitely in the jam band scene. Vince and Drew are great guys as well. I still remember when Mark Vann, one of their founding members and banjo player died. It was the Spring of 2002 and later that year, in August, Widespread Panic's guitar player, Michael Houser died, both of cancer.
When did you attend Auburn? I can understand kids attending college in the 90s following bands like WSP and Phish.
I personally find it hard to believe that WSP and Phish have a large following from kids in college now. It could be that I'm just out of touch from that genre of music that I don't know many people who listen to "jam bands".
My wife and I are some of the oldest people I see at show, along with our friends. 75% of the crowd is 18-25 or so anywhere in the Southeast, Texas, and midwest. West coast and Northeast tends to be an older crowd though.
Well at least jam bands understand music. Rap in the other hand is for people with no natural rhythm so they have to have a machine do it. I would have to say rap is the most annoying music(if you can call it that) out there. I guess modern country is pathetic as well. I dig old country like Cash, Jennings, Nelson, etc. Pop punk is lame. Pop in general...lame! Some jam bands are terrifible. Like Soundtribe Sector 9 and the Disco Biscuits. Horrific noise!!! Widespread is eh, so-so. Their slow ballots I like, but their upbeat songs all sound the same. I liked them alot more with their old guitarist. Hoover, Hover. Now the Grateful Dead on the other hand. Absolutely incredible. I wouldn't have spent four years of my life(91'-95') following them coast to coast otherwise:) Phish are okay. I like the days of old with them. Their new stuff is a little too poppy and their lyrics are just plain wrong.
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Actually WP didn't start Bonnaroo. That is false information. I'm close friends with the folks who put on Bonaroo, Vegoose, etc. Superfly production is the name. They're close with Panic, but Panic didn't start Bonnaroo by any means.
Actually they didn't. That is false information. I'm close friends with the folks who put on Bonaroo, Vegoose, etc.
Houser, thany you. I couldn't think of his damn name for some reason. I do like David Skools. Dude's got a thunder thumb.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but House of the Rising Sun is a traditional folk song written by a woman long ago from the good ol' US of A. The Animals definitely made it popular. They switched the lyrics up. The real lyrics are "been the ruin of many poor girl and me oh god I'm one." The Animals said "many poor boy." Just a little musical knowledge for ya':)
White boy I hate life music? Grow up, just because you don't like it doesn't mean the people that listen to it hate themselves. I understand you may not like the music, personally I can't stand any country, pop rock, rap, or hip hop but I'm not going to say stereotypical comments about them because I don't like it. Sorry to tell you that those bands do know how to play their instruments and do it better than most in the world.
With the hipster movement I wouldn't be surprised. If you want to hear bad music that is somehow popular check out Tyler, The Creator. Absolutely no talent and his songs are basically him talking with boring beats in the background.
Superfly Productions? Used to work for them. I know how Bonnaroo started. Buck Williams with PGA and WSP's manager, along with Robert Capshaw with Red Light Management and the manager of the DMB and Phish were approached by Rick and Jonathan from Superfly about helping with the backing of a festival on the level of Jazzfest, but in one weekend and more centralized in the mold of Phish's Big Cypress. Phish had already planned a hiatus for the next year so WSP, DMB, and Trey (with a project he was developing) were brought in to headline. Something came up with DMB and they couldn't play, so WSP ended up doing two nights.
Oh, and Vegoose hasn't happened in 5 year. Just wanted to let you know.
Got ya' I'm boys with most of the superfly crew and I read your original post saying Panic started it and replied to that. Then I read your post further down where you mentioned SFP. At first I thought you were talking crazy talk, but you know what you are saying. I know Vegoose hasn't happened in years. I was just saying Superfly put it on. I went to the first and second Bonaroo. They were fun, but I haven't liked the lineups since then so I haven't gone back. I wen to the first Vegoose and raged. Love me some Vegas, well, for a few days tops. If you like low key festis with deep family you should go to Black Sheep in Oregon. My family puts it on. Good times. No bad blood. Just a misunderstanding:(
I worked the first one, but by the 2nd year my work was done and I got to enjoy things. I left to go to another production company in 2004. Vegoose was a lot of fun, but it's tough to keep a festival going out of season. Plus the bands didn't want to keep doing Halloween in Vegas enough for it to be successful.
Still do some consulting for Huka Entertainment that puts on the Hangout Festival.
Is Black Sheep that private festival. It's northwest of Eugene if I'm right. Met a guy at Bonnaroo, oddly enough, that drove all the way by himself from Eugene. We were cruising the camp sites and he asked for help with his tent. He asked if we minded if he hung with us some that day for a little bit and he had some great bud. We threw a Staff badge on him and let him go with us backstage for a couple of days. Lost him after the 2nd day and have never seen or heard from him since, but I believe that is the festival he was telling us about.
Yeah, that's the show. It's in between Eugene and Portland, but it's near the coast. It's private. You have to be invited, but they won't turn anyone away if you show up. I lived in Eugene for 13 years, Boulder and Nederland for a couple years, Santa Cruz for a year and Honey Dew in Humboldt for almost two years. Moved around alot after Jerry died, but found a home in Eugene. Big Ducks fan. Anyway, just rambling. Yeah man you should try and make it up to Black Sheep one summer. It's mostly West coast GD family. Good folks, good times.
Did some crabbing in Coos Bay with some family a couple of years ago. Family is from California. Mostly Tracy, Fresno, Sacramento, and Truckee. Love Truckee.
Went with 2 old deadhead friends about 6 or 7 years ago and followed Panic from Red Rocks, to Jackson Hole, Missoula, McCall, the Gorge, Tahoe, and Berkeley. I hadn't seen as many deadheads as there were in Missoula and McCall since '95. There are so many in the NW. Some probably "hiding out". Went and saw Further a couple of times, but the crowd was young down south, which is probably good for the band.
Good talking to you. Maybe I'll get out there for that. Not as much time anymore, but maybe when the kids are older and gone, who knows.
Gotta luv it
Phish - Sand - NTELOS Wireless Pavilion, Portsmouth, VA - 6/19/2011
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I'm actually seeing umphreys mcgee in seattle right now. It's setbreak and been a great night so far.
"The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams" - Dio
Its true my friend. I graduated in 09 and three of my buddies have seen WSP a combined ~70 times while in college. Very big in the south.
By that definition, every "jam band" is probably just another genre with jam/long/improv elements. String Cheese is bluegrass with jam elements, Disco Biscuits is prog rock with jam elements, WSP is southern rock with jam elements, etc. A lot of studio cuts of Dead and Phish songs may be short, but they often turn into 20 minute live jams.
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