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Last time Auburn fans were this angry about a recruit's rankng it was a long haired mlb with 1 million tackles in high school.
Am I supposed to be outraged by this?
No I would say the last time was TJ yeldon. He started out as a 3 star. Bama fans reminded us of Jake though. Then when he was about to switch he finally got his 5th star.
I don't know. I'm not. I think he should be in it but don't care that much.
Johnson has some potential, but I think you folks are really, really overstating him because you want him to be great. I understand that, but we have a job to do.
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Everything I've said in this thread is completely true, yet you all continue to deflect. Cam was not recruited out of HS and was only in AU for several months during which there was little development. Cam initially had success but it was due to his incredible freak athleticism and not his polish/development received from his time in AU. Once he was in the NFL for a little while defenses adapted to his athleticism and style of play and he has struggled at the end of last season and nearly this entire season. And this has nothing to do with Alabama as we are not a QB driven team, but if you want to bring us into it there is no comparison between the two when it comes to player development over the last 5 years.
Some potential... To be Mr. Football in AL, lead his team deep into the 6A playoffs while putting up ridiculous numbers, win numerous MVPs/7-on-7 titles, show out at the Army AA game despite spending the past few months focusing on basketball, have arguably the best measureables of any QB in the class, etc.
I would agree with you that you still have a job to do.
This post was edited by WhatAboutBobby 15 months ago
You already have a few highly decorated mr. Football's on your squad.
I'm done having a conversation with a wall.. There's no point. I will say one last thing. Cam was "in AU" for over a year. If that is your definition of several months then guess we have different definitions. He was an EE so he came in in early January for his first class day. He left AU after his NC game which was the day after school started one year later. Watch the Clemson game and tell me there is no difference in him from then and the SECCG. UF people told us he was their third string QB at UF. He put up over 400 yards in his first two games through the air in the NFL. His freak athleticism didn't put that much yardage through the air.
Also 247Sports ranks the players on where they believe they will be drafted. They don't rank them on their NFL career. Auburn has proven in the last two staffs that they can put QBs in the draft in the first round. The original statement you had was
"The ranking system is based on how the evaluators feel he will project in the future. What kind of player he will be in college and how that will eventually project into the NFL. The fact that he is being recruited out of high school to AU, makes him a long shot to ever live up to his potential and ever enter the NFL. 24/7 got it right IMO."
The ranking system does not allow where he is committed to affect his position in the ranking. If he was committed to USC instead of Auburn (which they seem to have a QB factory) the ranking of him would not change. So to say that 247 got it right because AU recruited him out of HS and that's why he shouldn't be ranked highly is just wrong.
Your name says it all. Two things: uat plays in Tuscaloosa, not Birmingham, now go count your real teeth or let your wife/sister do it. I hope this is the reply you were trolling for.
By quoting my post you conveniently show that I have said nothing about their NFL career, but about how they "project" into the NFL as in where they will be drafted. My argument is that using past examples of highly recruited QBs recruited out of high school to AU: Rollison, KF, and to a lesser extent ZP the odds are he will never develop into an NFL draft choice thus justifying the ranking. You have to go back >10 years to find a QB recruited out of HS that played in AU and was drafted.
Props for actually addressing the content of my posts and not continuing to deflect.
Because he wasn't a 5-star talent?
You guys still want to insist that our star rankings are inflated, yet claim that CNS only wins because he has the most talent. We have overrated recruits, yet they dominate the competition and the NFL draft.
It really is a travesty, but we have too much class to compare it to 9-11 or Pearl Harbor.
You're right. Players go to Auburn to get groomed for the NFL. Look at all the NFL talent on that team!
I guess Shane thinks Yeldon will flip to Bama after he enrolls at Auburn. Brilliant. Sell those subscriptions, BOL.” - TIGER
Time to take a break, Bobby. In your simple little mind, it appears that you think you are on the payroll as a recruiting analyst.
It seems we've heard this same story before....Kodi Burns, Frazier, Jewfro Holland, etc were all on the weekly "AU b*tch about their ranking list".
What is so horrible about it? Frazier was a higher rated HS QB and was supposed to be the second coming when he committed to Dumpster Fire U. Johnson is probably less polished as a passer at the same stage. AU fans say he "showed out" today. Only showing out he did was after Quick bailed him out by making a great adjustment to the ball in the air on that touchdown. A well thrown ball would have been caught by a wide open receiver on that play but instead was caught in traffic as the receiver was coming back to the ball. Horrible throw.
Johnson has great potential and an incredible frame but there is a reason that the top football program in the country didn't show him any interest even though he plays in their state.
"Some potential"? I think you are biased, blind, or just plain crazy. You are also in a very small minority if you think Johnson isn't a high caliber recruit. Did you see what he did against Auburn HS in the playoffs? Over 5,000 yards passing in the last two years? Over 50 TDs? He is a top 10-15 QB in the Nation and you say he "has some potential"? Give me a freakin' break!
This post was edited by ETSJ 15 months ago
The reason "that program" didn't push hard for Johnson is probably similar to the reason they didn't push hard for Winston last year until it was too late.
Which was because they had other prospects rated higher on their board... Similar situation.
Ummm, Jason Campbell was drafted highly along with Cadillac and Brown that year. Definitely < 10 years ago bruh.
Will carry auburn to seasons where they actually go to bowl games. Sky is the limit imo
Eat clean. Train Hard.
lol at Auburn fans getting mad about Auburn fans being honest
What JC meant to say is that Cooper Bateman, Parker McLeod, and Luke Del Rio are exponentially better than that project that is Jeremy Johnson. It's clear to anyone not an auburn fan that Johnson isn't deserving of his four star status and is at best a work in progress. He'd be better suited playing tight end.
That's what JC meant to say.
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