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It's a good thing Lebron has grown as a player since then.
You can't judge a player based on what he has done when he was 26 and younger. You have to look at his full career, something which Lebron hasn't finished
1. The NBA is soo watered down today it's a joke half the teams are complete gutter trash.
2. The rule change has allowed perimeter player's to dominant more and score easier, look at Kobe's numbers pre and post hand check rule.
3. MJ played against great defensive centers such as Mutombo, Ewing, the dream, Shaq, Mourning etc, who are great centers in today's NBa game just D12 but he has a bad back right now.
4. MJ dominated every NBA finals he has every played in going 6 for 6 with wins and Finals MVP's something no player has ever done.
5. Most NBA dynasties have at least 3 HOF's for example Russell had Sam Jones, Hondo, Kc Jones, ettc, Bird had Mchale, Chief, dennis johnson; Magic had Kareem, Big game james. NOtice all these dynasties had a dominant lost poser scorer something MJ has never had yet and only had Pippen as a Hall of Famer for all 6 titles..
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So you're telling me that humans have evolved THAT much in the last 15 years that if you put MJ in today's NBA he wouldn't be the best in the league? That's complete nonsense if so in fact Jordan would probably be even better in today's NBA.
People really just love to play the role of the skeptic.
To the genius who said that Jordan would completely own Lebron had they faced off in each other's prime......if Jordan couldn't handle a teenage Kobe, how on earth would he shut down a guy with the size and strength of Karl Malone, passing skills of Magic Johnson, and the agility and speed of Isaiah Thomas?
Never thought this thread would get a joe dumars name drop. Shawn Marion as well.
This is impressive and may never end haha
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How soon we forget....
The same 32 year old Michael Jordan could walk into the league today and dominate.
No Sh!t. But 34 year old Jordan would be 3rd team all-NBA behind Kobe and Harden.
This is seriously one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard in my life..
You're either a child of incest, or completely delusional if you honestly think MJ could shut down Lebron. So which is it?
You're a complete dipshit of you think MJ couldn't muster up the same defensive skill set that Sean Marion used to throw LBJ off his game.
LBJ is in my mind unquestionably the most athletic player I've seen, but that's not the be all end all...MJ was a champion.
I'm a Heat fan, but until LBJ gets at least three more 'ships, he's just not in the conversation.
The scary thing is, you really believe this shit. I despise LeBron, but I'm not going to sit here and lie to myself....LBJ would absolutely bitchown MJ.
Jordan wasn't even the best defender on the championship Bulls. It was Pippen who drew the Magic Johnson's of the league back then....and when MJ drew Dominique Wilkins or Andrian Dantley before Pippen got there, they would absolutely torch him. Go ahead and look it up, imbecile. Do yourself a favor and stop adding your stupidity to this thread.....you're embarrassing yourself.
Try to refute it....go ahead, try.
Attempting to have an intelligent dialogue with an MJ fan is akin to that episode of The Chapelle Show where Dave was being questioned for Jury duty and refused to believe anything, regardless of facts......i.e., OJ killing Nicole, R Kelly sexing a teen on video, etc.
Here it is....excuse the crappy quality.
That quality is for shit
Your just embarrassing yourself man, LBJ was punk'd out by the celtics, magic so he had to join forces with his boy Dwayne Wade b/c he couldn't handle the pressure, so then he gets to the NBA finals and gets shut down by the matrix and jason kidd lmaoo b/c his softer than cottonelle tissue. Using your logic he's going up against the most ferocious NBA player and best NBA player of all-time who has destroyed everything in his path. To the think LBJ would own MJ is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life. About your comment about Pippen being a better defender than MJ, PIppen challenged MJ in practice and MJ embarrassed him in every meaning of the word, he made Pippen tap out and he never questioned the greatness of 23 again, good job good effort but your posts are complete trash..
I'd take Kobe at 34 over Jordan at 34.
Wilt, Magic, or Kareem over either one. Wilt is the GOAT with Kareem being 1B, there is a reason why rules were changed and why WIlt has every record imaginable.
Why do championships matter? I've never understood this. It's a team game. You have to have a great TEAM to win no matter who you are... I've always said this: If you took the players in the NFL that have won a Superbowl and made a team out of them and they played the people who didn't, the people who didn't would win.
Starting backfield: Marino, Earl Campbell and Barry Sanders. Game, set, match.
Were you there at the practices with Jordan and Pippen? Remember, I coached hoops for a long time and have a lot of people in the know with this.
Jordan admitted publicly that Pippen for a stretch was the best player on the team and that's a fact. Is Pip better than Mike? No, but Jordan had MAJOR help. Lebron had NONE til he went to the heat. I find it amusing that guys like Jordan, Bird and Magic have mentioned that they didn't leave their team...
Ummm...you guys are geniuses. You didn't have to, ya' morons.
It's called doing research, Craig Hodges told the story at practice when Pippen challenged Jordan and Jordan physically embarassed him and just reinged shots on him that it was like a man vs. a child. Pippen backed off and never challenged 23 again. He prob said that to get Pippen's confidence up b/c every 1 knows that Scottie is a mental midget when he refused to come into the game and how he choked big time for the blazers, Jordan never thought for a second Pippen was better than him. PIppen is overrated, Jordan carried him after Jordan retired Pippen went on to choke for the Blazers, Also your teammates have nothing to do with Lebron pulling a Houdini act against the Celtics twice and against the MAvericks, when Jordan lost he went down swinging he scored at will he was just with a bunch of scrubs. Name me one time Jordan was shut down in a NBA finals?..
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