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Well they can't play each other in a game geinus b/c they were on the same team, Scottie had the bad back against the Jazz and was basically a ghost and MJ had to carry the team to the title remember that?
You realize that as a player you can't do what you want to do, correct?
Or do you think that these guys just go out there and "ball out, son"?
You can demand the basketball, the one time the coach drew up a play and Bird said just give me the ball and get the hell out of the way. Lebron lacks the mental toughness and doens't want the ball at the end of games something Jordan thrived on, if you tried running a play in which Jordan didn't touch the ball he would berate everyone. Name me one time Jordan was shut down in the NBA finals?..
This post was edited by jmsmooth33 15 months ago
Who is saying Jordan was shut down in the finals? Personally, I have no idea, nor am I going to spend the time looking up EVERY single final game Jordan was in. Also, Lebron is taller. Lebron is bigger. Lebron is stronger. Lebron can jump higher. Lebron can run faster. These are facts. So to say that Jordan would destroy Lebron is just an ignorant statement. Do you really think that Lebron would just back down in this ridiculous, impossible scenario?
Players are better today and the league is better today. You want proof? Here you go...how many people played basketball in 1990 and how many play now? Game over.
I said that b/c Lebron was shut down in the NBA finals when he played Dallas and MJ never was, look at how many horrible teams their are in the NBA, MJ also won the Defensive MVP people forget how great of a defender he was. Yes MJ would embarass LBJ just like every other player has destroyed in his career, don't ever bet against MJ you'll lose...
Here are some facts:
Shaq 02-03 57.9 fg% on 1211 shots taken.
Kobe 02-03 45.1 fg% on 1924 (say what!) shots taken.
Shaq 03-04 58 fg% 948 shots taken
Kobe 03-04 43 fg% 1124 shots taken
So to recap, they averaged nearly the same amount of points, though Shaq did so with far fewer shots. Kobe wasn't even sniffing 50% from the field even with Shaq getting double teamed anytime he touched the ball. 43%? That's pathetic. There's no sense in even bringing assists into the debate as Shaq was a center. Though 3 assists a game for a center is pretty good. If you're starting a team and both players are in the prime of their careers, smart folks will take Shaq every time no question.
Don't know why this pic was deleted, but I'll post it again. ONLY PLAYER IN NBA HISTORY TO PUT UP THESE NUMBERS IN AN NBA GAME!
Hard to believe Kobe is still playing at this level. Every now and then you can see games where he just doesn't have it in him. But more often than not, dude is on another level and still looks like a top 5 player in the league. Hope he has enough gas for the playoffs if we can get there. Better load up on those PEDs.
Greatest season by a perimeter player in his 17th season EVER.
Kobe - 27.3 PPG 5.6 RPG 6.0 APG 46.3% FG 32.1 3pt% 1.4 spg
MJ- 28.7 ppg 5.8 rpg 3.5 apg 46.5% FG 23.8 3pt% 1.7 spg
All while leading his team to the championship again...Kobe struggling for the 8th spot with 2 of the top 5 centers in the league on his team. Hmmmmm
Check the date on the original post. And Jordan's team consisted of the greatest rebounder in modern history, the best perimeter defender in NBA history, and the greatest 3 point shooter in NBA history. The year Jordan ditched his teammates to suck at baseball, they won 55 games and were 1 egregious call away from another finals appearance. Take away Kobe from this Laker team and they'll be lucky to win 12 games.
Shaq missed 15-20 gms, in both those scenarios.
He played in around 65 gms/yr, his last 3 yrs in LA.
Makes it all the more remarkable. Though of the 2 years he mentioned only the 02-03 season saw a significant amount of games missed when compared with Kobe over those same seasons.
Why is Snaq O'Meal even being mentioned unless we're talking about how he rode Kobe's coat tails to the finals every year so could feast on glorified PF's on those sorry east squads.
I'll give you Rodman. But no way can you call Pippen the greatest perimeter defender in NBA history. Pippen wasn't even the best perimeter defender on his own team. Sure Steve Kerr shot a great percentage from 3, but it was in spot duty with the greatest player ever, and another future HOF on his team drawing double and triple teams. I'd hardly call that an acomplishment.
I never said it wasn't remarkable, Shaq was the man.
03/04 Kobe jacked up a bunch of shots and he probably missed more gms than Shaq.
Let's revisit when he gets out of the first round......
All good bro. I totally agree.
Edit: he missed two more games than Shaq.
This post was edited by Banksy27 12 months ago
Steve shot 50% from 3pt land on a lottery team in Cleveland...but let me guess...the thought of playing with MJ 6 years later inspired him to greatness, amirite?
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