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The moral here is never, ever make a woman mad that has an axe to grind.
Paterno foe interviewed in Penn State probe
Former FBI Director Louis Freeh's investigation into possible wrongdoing at Penn State University appears to be examining football coach Joe Paterno's apparent preference for handling scandalous issues internally, and what role that may have played in a potential cover-up involving former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, convicted on 45 counts of child sex abuse on June 22.
Freeh's group has been poring over internal Penn State e-mails and has interviewed a past university official about the way Paterno influenced a variety of disciplinary matters, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation. Freeh is leading an internal review of Penn State's handling of the scandal that is unrelated to criminal investigations.
The e-mails obtained by CNN from a source familiar with the investigation, and first reported by the Wall Street Journal, show Paterno wielded power that went well beyond the realm of football or even the athletic department.
In a 2005 e-mail from Dr. Vicky Triponey, then vice president of student affairs in charge of disciplining students, to athletic director Tim Curley and others, she summarizes a meeting they had with Paterno in which he tells her that he wants to be the sole disciplinarian of his players.
She criticizes Paterno for wanting to limit the Campus Code of Conduct to incidents that take place on campus and keeping disciplinary matters involving his players private. "Coach Paterno would rather we NOT inform the public when a football player is found responsible for committing a serious violation of the law and/or our student code -- despite any moral or legal obligation to do so," according to her e-mail.
In the same e-mail, Triponey, also refers to calls her office was receiving from coaches and others. "I must insist that the efforts to put pressure on (Student Affairs) and try to influence our decisions...simply MUST STOP," she writes.
Curley, in a subsequent e-mail, acknowledges that Triponey's take on the conversation with Paterno is accurate.
Triponey replies to Curley, "I know you are caught in the middle of a very difficult situation," an apparent reference to appeasing Paterno.
In a subsequent e-mail to then-Penn State President Graham Spanier she is more blunt: "I am very troubled by the manipulative, disrespectful, uncivil and abusive behavior of our football coach," she writes.
Triponey has been interviewed by the Freeh group, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation.
In the same e-mail, she calls Paterno's behavior "atrocious" and said others are mimicking his behavior. "It is quite shocking what this man -- who is idolized by people everywhere -- is teaching our students..." she writes.
Triponey's e-mails may be a sign Freeh is also examining the culture around the football team as his investigators work to determine the circumstances surrounding a 2001 sexual incident with a young boy and Sandusky in a Penn State shower room and reported by then graduate assistant coach Mike McQueary.
In purported 2001 e-mails between Curley, Schultz, and Spanier, read exclusively to CNN, Curley appears to change his mind about reporting the locker room incident to outside authorities after speaking to Paterno, he wrote in one e-mail. Sandusky was convicted in June of four counts related to the 2001 shower incident, including unlawful contact with minors, a first-degree felony.
Curley and former Penn State vice president Gary Schultz face perjury and failure to report child abuse charges in connection with the Sandusky case. They have pleaded not guilty.
In 2007, after a widely reported incident where more than a dozen players crashed an off-campus party and started a violent brawl, Paterno appears to send an e-mail, through his assistant, to Spanier that says, "I want to make sure everyone understands that the discipline of the players involved will be handled by me as soon as I am comfortable that I know all the facts."
Paterno's attorneys have said the coach didn't use e-mail. The exchange shows while he may not have had his own e-mail account, his assistant would still send e-mails for him.
Paterno planned to punish the team by forcing them to perform 10 hours of community service and clean up the stadium after home games, according to a memo provided by a source familiar with the investigation.
After Triponey tried to discipline football players in the same manner as other students, she was harassed both online and at her home, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation. On her front lawn somebody put up a "for sale" sign. Police installed a surveillance camera. In the end, the source says Spanier suggested she think about her future at Penn State, and she resigned.
After Triponey left Penn State, the university changed its discipline policy involving off-campus incidents. Its current code of conduct says it only applies to "off campus conduct that affects a Substantial University interest."
The Freeh goup and the university declined comment on this story.
Efforts Sunday night to obtain a comment from the Paterno family were unsuccessful. Paterno died of complications from lung cancer in January.
The 2001, 2005, and 2007 e-mail exchanges are among many now under investigation by the Freeh group. The e-mails revealed so far suggest coach Paterno preferred to handle bad behavior internally, a preference that may have influenced a decision by university officials not to report Sandusky to authorities in 2001 and allowed him to continue to abuse young boys.
Penn State fans have already assassinated Triponey's character.
So it's all good.
I linked a report Outside the Lines did back in 2008 of Paterno and Penn State covering up the thuggish behavior of their players. I wonder if Freehs report will include some or all of these things
Outside the Lines examines how Penn State coach Joe Paterno, while celebrating his induction into the College Football Hall of Fame, also is facing questions about the recent spate of criminal charges against some of his players.
Look, I am not on Paterno's side when it comes to the Sandusky situation at all. At best he looked the other way and at worst he helped cover things up.
With that being said, there is a reason why Triponey was kicked out of both PSU and UConn and hasn't been hired anywhere else. She is power hungry and tried to take all control away from the students.
Here is an example of how absurd she was. Dan Conner, PSU's former MLB, made a prank call to an ex-football coach after he ripped the team. Triponey wanted to suspend him for the whole year. Conner ended up missing 3 games. How many other players at other schools would miss 3 games for a prank call let alone a whole year? She is insane.
just when you think it can't get any worse....
3 time POTW, member since 2006, MLWTI: 4-3
Triponey is not hot in case anybody was wondering, I googled her.
BTW, at the end of the story, CNN implies that she was getting harrassed because of how she wanted to treat football players. That is not true. She was getting harrassed because she effectively disolved student government and took away student's "voice" on how the school was run. No one liked her.
Just because she wanted harsher discipline and took power away from the student government does not mean she is lying or incorrect about how Paterno weilded the power and influence he had at the university.
That also doesn't mean Paterno didn't punish players either.
I never said that she was. My question is, was he any different than coaches at other schools? What do you think Triponey would have said about Floyd from ND? How about Jordan Jefferson?
I'm just telling you guys that Triponey believed in two things... limiting the power of the student body and having complete control on disciplinary action without input from anyone else. I understand that to the public she looks like a poor woman just trying to do her job, but if you look at her history with UConn and PSU, you would see that she abused her power to the point where she effectively got the boot from both places and wasn't considered ANYWHERE else.
That's not the point. The point is did he have power that over stepped his position as head football coach.
6 players were originally charged with 9 felonies as a result of the apartment complex brawl. Paterno wanted to give these players 10 hours of communtiy service and make them clean up the stadium. Not exactly a stiff punishment considering the severity of their crimes
I read in the Outside the Lines report that some of the victims of this brawl were still having medical problems several months or even years later
And I suppose other coaches at big time programs had little say in their players punishment?
Did the men's basketball coach or women's field hockey coach have the same power as Paterno concerning their players? If they did then maybe it's not a big deal.
Like I bet coaches of other sports have the same power as Saban at Bama? I'm not insinuating Bama did or does anything, just an example.
You seem staunch on this punishment thing but IMO, the covering up of incidents is what is more damning here. The pattern of covering up reality, or at least attempting to do so is a bit of a problem.
You could be right. I think it's a fine line at a lot of places. But what anybody else does at other places isn't going to have an effect on this case.
Is Saban the bar now? Nick Saban is known as a "win at all costs" coach, who runs a heartless program with NFL-style roster management. He's known as a winner, a guy who gets results. But he's never been known as the moral standard of coaching.
Thought Paterno was supposed to be a Saint.
I figured he was a good example of a coach that has a lot of power. Paterno was no saint, and I never viewed him as one.
Guess we'll have to see what comes out of the Freeh report. But Paterno seemed to be pretty tough on players that got in trouble, so I don't get why he'd pick and choose who to cover up for.
Tom Curley and Senior Vice President Gary Schultz, who have been charged with perjury, and former college president Graham Spanier planned to alert Sandusky's Second Mile charity and the state Department of Public Welfare, but dropped that idea after consulting with Paterno.
In this instance, he wasn't looking the other way, Paterno talked them into not going to the authorities with the information.
I guess all of the posters that said Paterno didn't have the type of authority to find out what happened with the JS shower incident or use his influence to make something happen so that innocent children were protected were just the naive and misinformed faithful. [puke]
Bye bye PSU, see you in 30 years
I love how certain posters are trying to make this all about Triponey, and just glossing over Paterno's actions. Triponey being power-hungry and Paterno engaging in cover-ups and demanding disciplinary power over his players aren't mutually exclusive by any means.
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