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OT. I see you guys just offered Kief. How many WRs do you guys plan on taking?
Didn't really get any split ends last cycle, Keif is pretty much as opposite of a slot receiver as you can find.
Besides, our WR corp was pretty blah. WR for tOSU = OL for UM.
Time and change will surely (truly) show
How firm thy friendship ... OHIO!
I went to two of Kiefs games last year. Definitely not a burner, but he will be a good possession reciever. He reminds me of Jaron Dukes.
Actually you were the one who made that comparison. You asked when Meyer had recruiting classes that didn't pan out. I showed you, then you made a comparison to Hoke's year this year.
Meyer isn't bullet proof like you seem to believe. His recruiting is great, but so is Hoke's.
You guys got game 2 at home, we will see in November.
Good luck, you'll need it
Well you certainly backed down pretty quickly. Did you pull your head out and realize how silly those last 2 posts you made were?
No I just cant argue with Stupid people. You were trying to say Urbans classes haven't panned out, LOLZ. Then for some dumb reason you started ripping Urban for being 8-5 in the SEC, even though Brady Hoke went 8-5 this year. It doesn't matter who he lost to. He was in all of those games except Bama. He just got out coached. In time, you will see that Brady Hoke wont be able to keep up with Urban. I know you blue fans love Hoke, but what about in a year from now when he is 0-2 against Urban. You trying to compare Urban and Hoke is very funny. Hoke has don't nothing in his career to show he has the ability to beat Urban. And he hasn't shown the ability to develop the players hes recruited.
This post was edited by JTforpresident 14 months ago
Just looking for slights that aren't there clearly. Urbz classes didn't live up their billing. He had a #1 class that didn't win anything, he had great classes that ended in 8-5. That's all I said. Hoke is recruiting very well, and nothing you guys did last year would suggest Hoke can't compete with Urbz. You won by 5 at home and you are acting like you are unbeatable. How dumb can one be? Calm down bro and you'll have better time.
You are also delusional though, just want to reiterate that.
This post was edited by mriderblue12 14 months ago
What classes didn't live up to their billing? What #1 class didn't win anything? I don't think you know what youre talking about. Who cares how much we won by? You guys barely beat a 6-7 OSU team, with a freshman QB, and a coach who was in way over his head in 2011, at home. I never said we were unbeatable, I just know Urban will dominate Hoke. Im having a good time! And the good times will continue with Urban here and Hoke up there!
You really can't judge/compare recruiting classes based on the results of the next season after NLOID. Or the season after that one. And that goes for every coach. The best you can do is look at the classes 3-5years down the road. Unfortunately we don't have that luxury. So the comparison is pointless.
I'll just say that it is pretty much universally admitted that Meyer is a Rock Star recruiter. Hoke may be good too, but nobody but the most crazy scUM fans would consider him better than Meyer as a recruiter.
However, in general, as coaches we have better comparisons. And those comparisons aren't close. Meyer is the better coach, hands down.
- Rings: Meyer 2, Hoke 0
- Undefeated Seasons: Meyer 2 (different teams), Hoke 0
- Overall Win Pct.: Meyer .828, Hoke .537
- Bowl Record: Meyer 7-1 (4-0 in BCS Bowls), Hoke 2-2 (1-0 in BCS Bowls)
- Conf. Championships: Meyer 4 (2 different Conf., would have been 5 in 3 Conf, except for inherited ban), Hoke 0.
With that all said, Buckeye Nation are happy campers. See ya in November.
aTm set the bar high
And these numbers are skewed. You can't judge a coach by comparing numbers without taking into account past coaching stops.
You think Meyer is winning NCs at Ball State and SDSU? No chance of that.
Hoke had an 11-1 season at Ball State, and turned around a shitty SDSU and made them a decent program.
Meyer came into better situations at BGSU, Utah, and UF than Hoke did at Ball St and SDSU.
We're happy with Hoke. You have to be extremely homerish or just have a low football IQ if you can't see Hoke is building a great program.
I just wish I could fast forward two years from now to see the meltdowns on MGOBLOG.COM about why Hoke cant beat Meyer.
I was going to reply as many as you take OL. However, I like the aTm idea.
BGSU was a dumpster fire...lol
Why didn't Hoke ever get a better job then? And no I don't think Meyer would have won a title at those schools. He coached at BG and Utah and didn't win a title there. But he turned BG around right away. He took A 2-9 BG team to a 8-3 record. Then got a better job at Utah and won a BCS game. Hoke actually walked into the better Jobs. Then Florida hired him and he continued to win. What if Michigan got Harbaugh, do you think anyone would have picked up Hoke? I don't, he'd probably still be a SDSU. Theres a reason why Carr never promoted Hoke to DC, or why Indiana and Minnesota passed on him as HC.
Meyer got better jobs, because he's a better coach. And yes, Meyer would have done better than Hoke at Ball State and SDSU.
My IQ (of all types) is just fine thanks. You are the one who is homerish, but I realize it's a defense mechanism to protect yourself from the reality. So it's all good. See ya in November.
Lol! I guess that explains why Tress never got a better job offer than Youngstown state before he moved on to OSU. Stupid logic you're using there.
Defense mechanism That's rich.
You are predicting the future and calling it reality? Yeah.. Doesn't seem like you're IQ is fine..
We will see you in November. I personally can't wait.
This post was edited by TAMUWolverine 14 months ago
I love how you just sit back and watch everybody else flame lol
You're a good poster bbucks.
Tressel had tons of offers from D1 schools. He dominated at Youngstown state. He loved that school and always said the only place he would leave it for was tOSU. I remember hearing him say that.
And yes, I cant wait for November. Our up tempo offense should be hitting on all cylinders by then. Braxton and Carlos are going to put on a clinic. And hopefully Devin Gardner can get past the 50 in the second half this year!
Fine, but don't play dumb. If you want me to find another example of coaches who have come from no name schools to the big lights, and coached well I can certainly do that. You (and jarhead) act as if that's never happened.
Wait...did you just try to compare Hoke not getting better jobs to Tress NOT TAKING other jobs between Y-State and OSU?
BTW, among others, Tress TURNED DOWN the Miami (Fla) job waiting on OSU to open up. I don't know, but suspect Hoke didn't turn down any top-flight jobs as he slouched toward Ann Arbor (is a whore).
And I didn't predict the future at all. I extrapolated what have happened in the past (if Meyer had taken over Ball State and SDSU) based on their results elsewhere. (If you're going to question my IQ in the next sentence, at least get your facts straight in the setup sentence. )
Harvard of the Midwest.
And I didn't know he turned down jobs. I implied that in my post to JT. But my point still stands. You're acting like Hoke sucks because he didn't coach at better schools before he took the UM job. That is poor and stupid logic. If you want another example of a coach who came from a no-name school to the big time and coached well, I can certainly find one for you.
And yes, you're right, you did not predict the future. I read that wrong. My bad. But you are predicting that Meyer would have performed better at BSU and SDSU and calling it "reality"..
I'd like you to prove that to me. Considering it never happened, not sure how it could be reality..
You cannot come to that conclusion based on past results. Comparing Utah to Ball St (or SDSU) is flat out stupid.
Are people under the impression they cant flame without me? Ill get involved if the topic interest me...that post finally grabbed my attention. I know the guy personally. Im surprised my spelling wasnt off from laughing.
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