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ITT bama fans jerk each other off... Shocker
No doubt there's alot of talent there. This is a recruiting website, so we can all appreciate a roster made up of highly ranked classes, but we also know there's alot more to it than just star power. You're absolutely correct that it's half the battle (at least) but the other half is coaching and Jimbo hasn't proven himself yet. I'm not saying he won't - it took Saban several years to refine his process and get things down to a science - but we haven't seen it yet. This may be Jimbo's breakout year where it all falls into place, but many people are withholding their optimism/confidence in FSU until that happens. The schedule in the ACC is pretty damn easy, although I'll grant you your point about your toughest games being on the road (yes, I'm aware Alabama has a pretty easy go of it this year also, but still not ACC level). I guess my point is that it still remains to be seen and I'm not going to believe it until I see it with him.
Im coming at Bama hard in 2013 and 2014, they ain't ready for the amount of torment my trolls will deliver as FSU rolls past them into americas driver seat with UF
Bama will still be there, don't get me wrong.... but they are soon to have some company at the top
fsufsu said... I've got about 10 great stories on Lane but all you need to know is he will never be a loser, that's for sure.
Nova, it is way to easy to troll the BOLers.
UGA plays a team with a pulse in the west this year. They will finish 3rd in the east. Murray continues his tradition of choking every big game.
I feel most of that
As for developing his under-rated 3 stars, he turned 3 stars McCloud, Werner and Rhodes into solid draft prospects
And most aren't noticing that Jimbo is sending 15 guys to NFL fall camps this year with at least 10 of them being possible draft picks that makes teams for sure
Where I disagree is coaching, its not all Jimbo and he and his staffs have done a great job cleaning FSU up from the mess Bowden left behind
People are just unfair in this day and age and expect it to happen overnight, when almost nothing does in college football.... Jimbo has proven a lot, pretty much everything except that he can't win a national title in his first 3 years on the job.... which if Im not mistaken has only been done twice IIRC
As for the ACC being easy, it won't be that easy next year
Clemson is better, Miami is better and VT will be better... all 3 of these games could be very tough for anybody and then we have UF on the road too... FSU's schedule isn't murder but its not a cake walk either
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10 Major Poll National Titles (CFB record)
35 Bowl Wins (CFB record)
72 Wins over last 6 years (CFB record)
I'm not sold on VT but I'll definitely give you the others. I think both Alabama and FSU beat VT handily.
As far as winning early in his coaching career, I think the reason why he catches more criticism for that is because of how weak the ACC was the last couple of years. If he puts up those first 3 years records in the SEC, he's on the cover of all the magazines and winning awards left and right. I agree it's a tougher league this coming year, but last year (I hate to go back to NC state again) it should've been an undefeated ACC title. Then you have what's happening in Gainesville. Muschamp comes in to a dumpster fire left behind by Meyer with a horrible QB, beats FSU and barely misses the title game last year playing a very tough schedule. When you look around and see things like that, it makes Jimbo's track record more disappointing than it would be if you just took it on overall season records alone. Again, not saying he doesn't have it going in the right direction, but he has alot to prove and I think he'd tell you the same thing.
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Agreed, and it pisses me off... I think Im pretty vocal about that.... Im certainly not happy about losing games to NC State and things of that nature but its all part of a process once you calm down and think about it
But UF is UF, they are a very good football program and lets not pretend Meyer's mess was anywhere near what Bowden left behind at FSU
I like that we are measured next to them, but falling short here and there is what makes the rivalry so incredible for me and most fans on each side with a brain
Its a true rivalry that never stops adding fuel to the fire from recruiting to on the field and almost everything in between
UF is just gonna beat FSU some years no matter how good FSU is, I have learned to live with this fact
People also seem to forget that UF was #4 and FSU was #10, UF was supposed to win that game
As for VT I wasn't saying I was sold on them being a 10 win typical Beamer team or nothing, just meant they would be improved and should be a top 25/35 ranked team at the worst.... and if better that will be a tough game in a possible ACC title matchup, or beating Miami twice wouldn't be very easy either
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How big of a "mess" are constant top 5 or 10 recruiting classes really? I hear this all the time from FSU, UF, Auburn, etc. If a coach never had a recruiting class outside of the top 10, you are not in a mess, you are stacked with talent, IMO. Of course they might not fit a certain system, but if being loaded with 4/5 * players = mess....then someone mess my team up please. Although if you are comparing what shape the respective teams were in, then FSU was in way worse shape than Meyer left UF in.
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If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.
Obviously you know nothing of Bama football because McCarron's dew is the source of his power and Coker's merely a cheap imitation thus far.
You've got me there because I don't know a whole lot about the state FSU was in when Jimbo arrived. I don't follow that situation nearly as closely as I do with UF and other teams in our league. If it was as bad as you say it was, then that makes what he's done more impressive.
Well moron let me explain it to you since clearly you don't know shit
in 2005 FSU signed a top 3 class.... but if you factor in the fact that 5 stars Callahan Bright and Fred Rouse were no longer on the team after their freshman seasons and that 4 stars Matt Hardick, Clarence Ward, Russell Ball, Kendrick Stewart, Dan Foster and Matt Dunham either never showed up to school or played any meaningful downs and its obvious this was the start of Bowden's downfall in recruiting.... take these studs off the NSD finish and you are looking at a class in the 20-30 rank range
And again this was just the start
In 2006 FSU missed on Harvin despite getting his 4 star teammate the same year, a kid who left FSU after one year
4 star Preston Parker was booted of the team
4 star Hardrick tried after prep but failed again
4 star Anthony Leon left the team
4 star Devontrey Richardson left the team to play baseball
4 star Daron Rose left the team
4 star Marcus Ball left the team after a few years
5 star Brandon Warren left the team after one year
Take off one 5 star and five 4 stars and you aren't ranked #3 no more for sure, like this class was on NSD
Then in 2007 FSU missed on the Pouncey Twins and the wheels really fell off, both were long time commitments to FSU before Bowden blew it on NSD
So add that little doozy with the fact FSU's 2007 class was profoundly awful and please explain to me how FSU was so talented smart guy ? Or that Bowden didn't leave a giant mess of players leaving, getting kicked out of school and cheating in the classroom to the tune of the biggest cheating scandal in NCAA history
The 2007 class, or better known as Bowden's last... was ranked 21st on NSD, and when was the last time FSU finished that low ? on any site ? and this class of 20 saw only 6 players last through the Jimbo era, could you imagine how bad a class of only 6 players would rank ?
Clearly FSU should have been winning 12 a season and competing for NCAA titles right ? you stupid jackass
Look at my post above this one and tell me if you think that was pretty bad or not, I think it was embarrassing and one of the worst things I ever lived through
Shit got bad in Bowden's last few years, like really really bad... its why finally somebody stepped up and said enough of this.... you gone old man!
Go Blue & Gig Em'!
Comic gold right here
Lots of talk about an average - but once proud - program ITT.
ITT.....kite jumps in another Bama related thread to further prove his obsession....shocker
One thing is for sure....we will see how much better VT is that first game of the year.
I'm Kite's favorite Gump.
Haha.....so let me get this right. You are using departed members from the 05-07 recruiting classes to justify results in 2012? Wow.
Bowden didn't leave behind a bare cupboard when you compare it to what other coaches inherited. Saban, for instance, inherited a team from Shula in 2007 that produced ZERO draft picks.
No we won't, they have no chance against Bama
Ho hum. nova gettin delittled once again
No lol, are you really that stupid ?
I was explaining to the other moron that Bowden left a mess, god damn Big Willy why do you try ?
You are far too stupid to come at me brah
Believe me I know Bama was super gay a few years ago, I watch a lot of football and Bama has been gay for most of my life on this planet
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