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Hell no it's not a deterent, it hardly ever happens and takes too long.
Never going to happen, EVER.
You want them to spend millions putting a guy to sleep without pain, that is what happens.
5 people are exonerated a year. 115 are sentenced to death each year. Nearly 5% is much more than rare when talking about life and death.
Correction - they fear for their lives so they request to be placed in protective custody units, which just further isolates them, since PCUs are also home to all the snitches.
Which leads to my next point - relatively solitary confinement for the rest of your life? That's how people go insane. The retributive part of me thinks that making someone fear for their life every single day for the rest of their lives while locking them up with only their own thoughts is a pretty harsh punishment.
...except when the guy is innocent. Then, tons of problems created.
And then you have to bring in the element of innocence look at Dewey Bozell he was innocent but was serving life
I don't know about y'all but 23 hrs a day in a tiny ass room for the rest of my life is much more painful than a easy bullet to the head
(They're allowed outside for 1 hr a day)
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MasonHurricane 11 months ago
Good thing that never happens.
A lot more expensive too..
But considerably cheaper than exhausting appeals.
Not when they are convicted murders or rapists.
If they are alive. Then will appeal, so what point are you trying to make?
That's a common misconception. It's often more expensive to create separate places for death row inmates (California did this recently and spent billions) and give them free legal services for tens of appeals than to just sentence people to life without parole and pay to house them for 20-30 years. Sentencing someone to death and executing someone is generally a 10-15 year process anyway, so there's a whole lot of housing and legal fees to execute someone.
Yes, killing 5 innocent to murder 100 or so "guilty" people (just because they weren't exonerated doesn't mean they shouldn't have been) is so worth it. Instead we could just leave them in a cell for the rest of their lives and if they happen to be exonerated, they're alive to walk out of prison.
No need to pretend like this is black and white.
First - not all convicted murderers/rapists are guilty.
Second - What are you trying to say? Is this autocorrect messing your post up again?
And it shouldn't be 10-15 years. It should be, you get a year to prove your innocence, after that. Bye bye.
Jesus. You really have no idea how the American legal system works.
Funny, the speaker we had on our last day of class was the first person exonerated via DNA evidence in the country. Gave us a two hour speech about how difficult the process was. He spent ten years in prison before being exonerated. After he got out, the guy who actually committed the crime finally admitted to it (although he was already serving a life sentence anyway). It took him 10 years on death row for them to finally be able to prove it.
There have been over 100 people with similar stories. "Proving innocence in a year" is an absurd standard. Why set an arbitrary time limit for something that is ridiculously difficult to prove, especially when the person who has to prove it is sitting in prison and can't investigate the thing in the first place.
You sound more surprised than I would have expected.
Actually, yes it did.
Are you in the legal system? And do you know how many people have been set free because they were wrongly convicted? It's a lot less than the people who actually are guilty.
Not saying it's right, because obviously if an innocent man or woman is going to be killed because of a crime they didn't commit, it's not good. But when do we say enough is enough? When we spend millions of dollars a year to house them, feed them, and give them free legal counsel? Oh... We already do that, nevermind.
So out of the hundreds of thousands of murders, 100's were innocent? Pretty good odds.
I'm not the smartest or the most knowledgeable about the process, and I was just generalizing more than putting an exact number on it. It just makes no sense that it takes 15 years to prove a person innocent.
This post was edited by OHSethIO 11 months ago
When you're dealing with state-sanctioned homicide, being "close" isn't good enough.
Yes, I am in the legal system. I also eat lunch every couple weeks with a former teacher of mine who defends multiple death-penalty cases every year, as well as numerous prosecutors who try capital cases.
Simply put - if you honestly think killing innocent people is just the price of our justice system, I don't know what to say to you. Our legal system is broken six ways to Sunday already, and the last thing we need is more irreversible penalties.
No, out of the thousands of murders that led to a death sentence, hundreds were exonerated and others were killed who were innocent. Reading comprehension is your friend.
Read ONE post above that post.
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