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Hes dead on. I agree with what he said. God or Gods were invented by us.
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He has sex with penguins. I don't believe a word out of his mouth
I mean yeah, but he isn't the first to say this.... el oh el
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Nobody knows what the fvck they are talking about when it comes to death. You have to fvcking die to know and he isn't dead. He can have an opinion just like everyone else but it doesn't make him any more knowledgeable about the subject than a 2 year old.
Most have long realized religion was created by man as a guide for society to live by
Anything else is unproveable
A faith based religion unprovable? That there is just crazy talk.
Totally agree with RATT and Yourself. Have to die to know what happens and also have to have been alive long long ago to be able to know if the miracles the bible preaches really happened. Either way i'm sure you guys know that you can't definatively state that religion was created by man as a guide for society to live by since you don't have anything to go off of. Btw have any of you guys ever read some of the fubared shit that happens in the bible. It starts off as a horror story and doesn't get a ton better lol
The bible was written by a bunch of church men long ago who wanted a way to control people.
Actually he has a point. It's not a question on whether Jesus Christ or Muhammad existed it's whether or not they were prophets. Every religion is based on some form of teaching. I guess we will all know soon enough who is right if anyone.
The real question isn't whether or not we can know what happens after death. The real question is whether or not you believe in God, and then, in which God you believe. For instance, some of the world's gods teach exactly what happens after death. If you believe that God knows what happens after death, and that He teaches us what happens, then it's not silly to say you know what happens. The real trick is what god you believe in.
If we don't know everything, then how can we know anything? If you believe in the God who knows everything then knowing the specifics of death isn't difficult. If you don't believe in an omnipotent God then how can you aver on anything?
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Actually, the Bible was written before the controlling types began to use it for selfish purposes. The folks who wrote the Bible were themselves persecuted and quite devoid of power.
I just prefer to be factually and historically correct.
My point is that it's just as intellectually questionable to say you can't know what happens after death as it is to say you can know. Certainly personal experience teaches soemthing that cannot be known by reading a book. However, reading about something or being told by someone else with experience can tell you a lot of things. So, my point is that the real question is what you believe regarding the forces/beings that are greater than we (e.g God). If you believe in the biblical God, for example, than you naturally believe that you can know what happens after death. So again, the real question is what you believe about God.
The point is that the bible was written by men. It is a fictional story. If people choose to live their life better because they believe in the bibles teachings then more power to them. It's the people who try to do things that would affect my life and say its because of gods word that I have a problem with.
That's funny. It is historically accurate to say the early Christians were badly persecuted, and that these same individuals wrote the Scriptures. The point is that the poster who said the Bible was written by those in power isn't much of a student of history.
And please (I'm talking to everyone else, not Bama, he knows better) let's stop with the cowardly downvotes. I haven't insulted anyone. If you cannot hang in the debate then graciously bow out w/o getting your feelings hurt.
Wait, I want to make sure i understand you. Are you saying it's fictional b/c it was written by men (b/c men only write fictional stories)? Certainly the pen to paper was done by men, but that, in and of itself doesn't make it fiction. If you want to say that it's not God's word, and therefore fiction in some of its claims then we can debate that. But please, don't waste my time with shallow ("I Just don't want there to be a god or i'm too smart for there to be a god") arguments that I often hear. Tell me why there isn't a God and why he didn't write the Bible, for instance.
Im not downvoting you, just FYI.
I didn't say that the bible was written by people in power, I said the bible was written by people who wanted power, but I do not claim to have a vast knowledge of BC middle eastern history.
Pretty much sums up the ingenious theory of evolution.
I appreciate your honesty and would say you've hit on a very important question. I can't make you believe in anything. All i can do is point out that the Biblical ethic is the farthest thing you can get from the lust for power. The Biblical writers (especially the NT writers) were extremely humble and generous individuals who lived an admirable ethic of personal piety and service to others. Look at the lives of Jesus, Paul, Peter, etc (even from the extrabiblical sources) and you'll see this to be true. Again, I won't disagree that many years later some non-Christians, wearing the hats of Christian leadership, used their position to abuse power and tried to justify it with the Scriptures. But, to hear their Biblical justification, for those of us who know the Bible well, is beyond laughable. The Bible doesn't justify the abuse of power.
Your first assertion assumes God wasn't involved in writing "the book"
Secondly, the belief in one God existed before polytheism. The most ancient manuscripts (the ones often ignored by those who don't want the Bible to be true) suggest as such.
Finally, your final assertion is true on its bare bones. However, the Bible describes faith (Biblical faith) as something based on reason (Hebrews 11:1) and therefore not independent on probabtive value. And again, if we cannot know everything, then how can we know anything? You are also fallible, so you cannot say that you definitively know anything. We either need to know everything, or know the One who does, to truly and definitively know anything.
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Yea, it really is. If you can't see the whole journey then you cannot logically say that you truly understand any of it. Prove me wrong beyond, "I disagree" or "yes you can."
All reasoning is circular reasoning Bama. We all begin from a certain jumping off point in an effort to find our way back. You're really good at impressive semantics. I'm not saying that to be patronistic. But, you'll learn that simple arguments usually win the day. As a fellow 5'10" male I can tell you definitively that being fallible is inherent to us all. And that is precisely the reason we need the infallible to truly know anything. Think about it. And, in reality we all use some form of faith. You folks who think you can know anything w/o an omniscient God practice faith more than any of us. There's just so much you must assume to hold the views that you seem to hold. It's not absurd when you're more interested in objectivity and truth than you are at being some sort of rebel simply b/c you think it's sexy to be different and smarter than everyone else. I used to be the same way so i'm not judging.
Bama, stop being a little baby. I do know you. And, you're done b/c you don't like it when you've been backed into an intellectual corner. I know the type, I've debated them many times. Like it or not I've been exactly where you are or, or pretty close to it. The truth is, if we're being intellectually honest, you cannot logically say you know anything unless you know everything. There's no way out of that logical quandry. You may not like it, but that doesn't make it any less true. I found my way back to my childhood faith b/c after years of wandering I realized I was being the douche. I have been there and back again in the realm of religion/philosophy/meaning of life stuff. Jesus is the truth. I don't know how to say it w/o sounding condescending. But, I really think you have something more than most. No one on this board understands the intricacies and realities of economics and some realms of politics any better than you, for example. I just hate to see you waste your God given gifts on that which is intellectually beneath you and consistently illogical in the realm of what really matters.
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