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First of all let me preface this statement by saying that I think the injury issue is sort of a cop out used by people who are missing the big picture. I don't think that the amount of injuries will be affected by a particular style of offense.
With that being said, I think the biggest issue with the HUNH is that it is a proverbial shortcut used to nullify a more talented team's advantage over a inferior team. I think we can all agree that it takes more energy to play defense than it does to play offense. Saban said today that it's not just the subbing that makes it a problem. When a defense gets tired, and you decide to sub, you are essentially playing for as long as the offense decides to with your second team. It makes it impossible to get your starters back on the field.
Also, you are esseintally taking the defensive coaches out of the game, as they have to remain in base schemes for the entirety of the game.
I think the biggest question is do we want to allow inferior teams to take this shortcut, and allow teams that have done all the right things to be deprived of the advantage that they have created for themselves.
By the way, I know this is going to be perceived as a Bama fan crying over the HUNH. I genuinely just want to discuss it though.
It's cheap, lets just be honest. They are saying we can't beat you by lining up and playing you, we have to snap the ball before your ready. Teams who can't recruit top players run this type of system.
I'm not a fan of it, but there's no reason to ban/restrict it.
How would you feel if there was a push for the NCAA to restrict Alabama's recruiting because it gives you an advantage over everyone else?
we don't sub, you don't sub.
get in better shape.
This post was edited by CptAUmerica21 9 months ago
That isn't the point. Everyone tries to recruit the best players. Not everyone tries to run the HUNH. It works like a fallback system. It's like if we can't get the best players, then this is what we are going to do about it. I don't think that's right.
It doubles the amount of plays which doubles the amount of injury situations. And like all sports, injuries generally happen when a player gets tired and is not going full speed. Subbing in and out cuts down on this. None of that is up for debate.
I have zero issues with it. No other sports subs to the degree as Football. soccer players play 90+ minutes a game. If we can't handle it we doubt deserve to win. It's Saban's responsibility to get them in shape.
This post was edited by rolltide06 9 months ago
I played soccer at highest level possible for 13 years. I played on traveling teams in tournaments every weekend. In all my years playing and all my years watching others play, there were maybe 3 injuries. Not the same thing IMO
looks like a fan crying about the hurry up to me.
It's a football strategy. Just like the option, which forces defenses to play assignment football for 60 minutes, or air raid (Mumme/Leach/etc.) which forces Dime/Nickel coverage all game, or the Power-I which forces you to play technically sound in the front 7 for 60 minutes and even perhaps bring the SS into the box on some plays (which forces single coverage on the outside).
Each has different merits and deficiencies. In addition, not all HUNH's are the same. Some are more pass oriented and others more run-first. No two are the same. The HUNH as they appear today are simply the evolution of football strategy. Some people don't like it, many do. If every game was simply an LSU/Bama Power-I slugfest, while entertaining for football watchers, it would be incredibly boring. HUNH is just another schematic philosophy in football just like any other.
Started at the bottom, now we here.....better get used to it.
I don't agree with this. Defense, by it's very definition, puts you at a step behind. The offense makes a move, the defense reacts. When you do something to interfere with the ability of a defense to react, an offensive advantage is attained.
You have timeouts for a reason. Use them.
How are 3 timeouts going to cut down on more than 100 plays?
I thought Bama's second team was better than everyone else's first team? So it will just be fair then right?
Wut? We can not sub in the 2nd team. That's the entire point here
So then it is 1st team vs 1st team, Bama is probably the most talented team in the country. So they should win any battle of 1st team v 1st team. Regardless of scheme
This post was edited by Bills2 9 months ago
Are you trolling or just not read the thread? Just read the thread first. That's all you have to do to answer these questions.
We usually do. I was talking about it in general, not in the sense of how it affects us.
I'm trolling because the entire idea that the hurry up is "cheap" is ridiculous. It is a scheme. And if you knew about the scheme, a team like Alabama's offense is actually set up perfectly to destroy the a team that runs hurry up.
Beating the hurry up isn't so much what you do on defense, it is more what you do on offense. If you understand the scheme, you understand isn't impossible to beat. And making it sound like only "inferior" teams use the hurry up is hilarious.
So if you had all of the talent that Alabama has on offense, would you implement the HUNH offense?
God TT smells like vagina... That is all, carry on now...
Why So Serious?
I see no problem with it...Saban just crying
Steve Spurrier is a God, and Mark Richt worships him
Respect to UGA fans for not acting like a bunch of little bitches about it...
You really are stupid and I'm not going to waste my time with you anymore.
It is used a ton in the NFL so they need to get used to it,its here until defenses figure it out
I would be more then happy to explain the hurry up offense to you if you would like.
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