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This is NOT a bash Christianity thread. I am a Christrian but I do wonder why he left it to others, that weren't devine, to interpret and pass on his teachings. I mean, since practicing his teachings is the only way to prevent eternal damnation, it's kind of important that we get it right. Wouldnt it really help society if he had written down his teachings in a clear, easy to understand manner?
They didn't have pencils
Who says he didn't? The Gospels were written after Jesus' death. Anything he may have written could have been destroyed after his death.
There's simply not evidence to suggest he did or DIDN'T write anything down.
Ever wondered why even the first book from the desciples waswritten 40-140 years after the death of Jesus?
The early church unanimously held that the gospel of Matthew was the first written gospel and was penned by the apostle of the same name (Matt. 10:2-4). Lately, the priority of Matthew as the first written gospel has come under suspicion with Mark being considered by many to be the first written gospel. The debate is far from over.
The historian Papias mentions that the gospel of Matthew was originally in Aramaic or Hebrew and attributes the gospel to Matthew the apostle.5
"Irenaeus (ca. a.d. 180) continued Papias’s views about Matthew and Mark and added his belief that Luke, the follower of Paul, put down in a book the gospel preached by that apostle, and that John, the Beloved Disciple, published his Gospel while residing in Asia. By the time of Irenaeus, Acts was also linked with Luke, the companion of Paul."6
This would mean that if Matthew did write in Aramaic originally, that he may have used Mark as a map, adding and clarifying certain events as he remembered them. But, this is not known for sure.
The earliest quotation of Matthew is found in Ignatius who died around 115 A.D. Therefore, Matthew was in circulation well before Ignatius came on the scene. The various dates most widely held as possible writing dates of the Gospel are between A.D. 40 - 140. But Ignatius died around 115 A.D. and he quoted Matthew. Therefore Matthew had to be written before he died. Nevertheless, it is generally believed that Matthew was written before A.D. 70 and as early as A.D. 50.
When were the gospels written and by whom? Dating the gospels is very important.
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Because they all thought that he was going to come back in their lifetime. When that didn't happen they put pen to paper..
Er, the lack of any surviving writing is pretty good evidence he never wrote down his teachings.
Given his following and the lack of any of writing he had done surviving, it's logical and reasonable to assume he never wrote anything down.
Lots of stuff was destroyed by haters (Romans and non-Christians). We don't have the crucifix, the tomb, the Holy Grail, any of His writings, or any writings from his apostles.
It's really quite unfortunate, but if you believe in the old Testament, you believe that everything was done according to Scripture, so to speak.
The oldest version we have is from around 300 AD. Not to mention how much of it was written well after the events and the immense difficulty of translating it. Martin Luther translated it from Greek over 100 times just trying to get it right, kind of hard without punctuation or spaces.
Interesting factoid, there have been more changes to the Bible by man over the years than actual words. Before any literalists pitch a fit, most of it is tiny stuff, just making corrections.
Because his penmanship is so immaculate and beautiful that your eyes would burst into flames upon viewing it?
He was too busy turning water into wine? I mean if I could do that, I sure as hell wouldn't be writing much if anything down.
Christianity is living by FAITH in the Lord, if he did write down his teachings and still leave it with us no one would be living by faith but facts..jmo
He did write it down and gave them to Joseph Smith on a tablet with magic stones to translate the tablet into English. When the translation was stolen, jesus gave Joseph Smith new stones to translate the tablet but as punishment the stones didn't translate the story exactly the same.
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Maybe he was illeterate(sp). And yes I do see the humor/irony in my not being able to spell that word lol.
Ever wonder why the gospel of all his disciples were not included in the Bible?
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Nope never thought about it
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Because the people in power who chose the 4 gospels didn't pick them.
Just like the letters from Paul were written over a couple centuries to resolve disputes between tribes/towns.
It's at least as good as the 'the fact there IS no evidence he wrote anything down PROVES he did!' argument.
Having no evidence of something in no way increases the chance it exists.
Also, the fact no one references any of Jesus' nonexistent writings is a clue as well.
SIAP, but I believe it was established that Jesus wasn't a scribe. He didn't know how to write.
+1 He was raised a carpenter
It's not that difficult. Jesus lived in an oral society where Rabbi's taught without chalkboards and their disciples learned verbatim what the Rabbi's taught, often even mimicking their mannerisms. In our largely visual society, like ours, this is hard to imagine. Jesus was literate as the tradition is strong that He regularly read the Scriptures on the Sabbath.
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Plus wouldn't everyone just say that he exaggerated everything.
Prolly best a witness wrote everything down.
just had to come by and read some of the comments , glad i am not investing tons of time in this one
Exactly. Just like the gospel of Judas that was found refutes all the current beliefs.....
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