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I'm completely missing the hypocrisy here. He says he thinks tax rates for the rich are too low, so him paying a low tax rate is hypocritical?
Just because I think I'm getting a great deal on something in a store and wonder why the price isn't higher doesn't mean I'm going to leave a bunch of extra money there.
I don't have a problem with the actual tax rate or the tax system that we have. I dont think it is wrong that he pays such a low rate. Its the hypocrisy that irks me.
I also don't think the Buffet rule should be enacted. I would rather see the government shrink as opposed to keep growing and need more tax dollars but that is an entire other can of worms.
So you have zero problem whatsoever with the tax rate? Why all the anger? Is Obama under some obligation to provide a sterling example and pay the government more than he has to under the current tax code? You're being ridiculous, especially since you have no problem with what he did - pay a low tax rate completely legally within the current tax structure. Nobody's accusing him of any evasion whatsoever.
Basically, here's how this breaks down: Obama wants to change the tax code, campaigns on this desire, and introduces legislation to do so. While legislation is pending, he pays all his required taxes according to the current tax code. Justinboze gets all pissed off because Obama is Obama.
Ummm....I think his is saying this because so many liberals hounded Romney about his taxes.
Because Romney is making tons of money on capital gains and being taxed at an exceedingly low rate.
Obama gave money to charity to lower his.
EDIT: I forgot all of the offshore accounts Romney had as well.
This post was edited by ramssuperbowl99 12 months ago
I simply pointed out that a big part of Obama's campaign was Romney's tax returns. Every democrat with an audience called out Romney for paying less than 20% on his taxes. That is the hypocrisy. Just because you choose to forget or ignore it doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
As you said, everything Obama did was completely legal, as was Romney. But the Democrats used his returns as a platform to make it seem that he was evading taxes and to demonize rich people by saying that he and others werent paying their fair share. Nobody is angry or accusing him of tax evasion. But I didn't expect you to admit anything negative about your savior.
They know what the point is but will defend anything Obama does. It's cool if Obama does it but was an outrage when Romney did it and was a big part of the campaign.
I'm POON bitch
"old bitch" and "hag" will see an uptick in use.
I hope she gets the nomination just for the lulz
The only reason people questioned tax evasion by Romney was because he refused to release any of his tax returns before the 2009 amnesty, and of the few returns he released, most were incomplete or partial. His effective tax rate wasn't at all why people wondered if he had been evading taxes. Romney refused to quiet rumors of his tax evasion at any point, even when he could've destroyed Harry Reid's political career simply by releasing clean returns.
On the other hand, Obama has released every single one of his tax returns since 2000.
Following the long-standing precedent set by past presidential candidates, President Obama and First Lady Obama, as well as Vice President Biden and Dr. Jill Biden, have released over a decade of tax returns to openly answer any questions Americans may have about their finances.
Because he didn't release his returns before 2009, and what few he released weren't all complete. Romney didn't even follow the practice established by his own father of releasing the last 12 years of tax returns.
People (both liberal and conservative alike) hounded Romney about his taxes because he refused to release his returns and quiet rumors of tax evasion.
This is the blind liberal - has not even heard one statement on her policy or politics and she already has a vote....
Lots of Blind Sheep
Not with independents...
When did I ever say I was definitely going to vote for Hillary Clinton?
Did Joe call him unpatriotic? 18% on $650,000 income. Surely that's unpatriotic. I wish we had a flat tax, but the fact is this president demonizes rich people for not paying their fair share all the while he does exactly the same thing. Way to lead by example.
untill they drop in to bounce the racist tag on you.
both ways ?
this character you speak of should be the topic of heated debate in San Fran
but i'm not certain Street gets total support among the hardcore in Cali.
oh wait, this is the low taxes for millionaire's are no big deal now thread.
Who cares. Obama isn't even American and needs to be deported.
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I am not an Obama fan at all, but I don't have a problem with his taxes. Most people who have money, even if they themselves are not very smart with money, will hire people who are smart to do things with their money and avoid huge taxes. The current tax code has plenty of loopholes and if a person, dem or rep, rich or poor, is able to take advantage of one or more of them, I'm all for it. Any system that gives people money back they didn't pay in and allows corps that make billions to avoid taxes on huge parts of it would get my scrutiny long before any individual or company who uses said system to their advantage will
Edit. Before you dems go crazy, I am not insinuating Obama is not intelligent about his finances
This post was edited by B1G Badger 12 months ago
Honestly, I kind of agree with this. I don't fault rich people for hiring good tax attorneys and accountants to take advantage of our current wildly inefficient and broken tax code - as my income has shot up, I use my own knowledge and the knowledge of my accountant to pay as few taxes as possible. Frankly, if you're not doing that, you're not acting rationally.
That being said, the tax code is the problem. The whole point of an efficient and fair tax code is that it shouldn't allow for such massively regressive outcomes. While I don't fault rich people for acting legally within the current tax scheme, I fault certain rich people (politicians, mostly) for acting purely in their own self-interest and making the tax code even more punitive towards the middle and lower classes.
Pleaz - she's the ticket - you're party vote is going to her
Also, at you thinking you know me. If there's a 3rd-party candidate who I like more, I'll vote for them. I don't think I've ever voted a straight party ticket.
Well, she's been in politics for 13 years, including a presidential run. We have a pretty good idea of what her views are
The lower class doesn't pay income taxes, in fact they get money "back" that they never paid in. Much of the middle class doesn't pay taxes either. So I am not really sure how you determine it is punitive toward those people.
Thinking everyone who doesn't share my ideology is intellectually inferior and bigoted. Lulz.
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