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at noon EST. Do you think his first term was a success or failure? And why?
Four more years
Yep. Hold on to your asses and guns. Shots gonna get ugly. As if it isn't already.
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His whole tenure is an epic failure. EPIC, never been seen before, and not in a good way. For all the Bush bashing he has done, he incredibly has done far worse.
I just wonder if now that he is a second term President if anything will be his fault, or if Bush will be blamed for the entire eight years for everything bad that happens.
He's starting in a new direction. Now it's gun owners fault. Soon it will be all Americans. Doesn't matter with him, he will blame any and all as long as his name isn't one of them.
But yes, he has wore out Bushs name. Bush sucked, but Oblablah is so freeking much worse.
Just remember, he ran the last four years knowing he needed to get re-elected. Now the man don't have to give a shit, scary.
Fact: When Clinton left office the U.S had a 200 billion dollar surplus. When Bush left office the U.S was 1 trillion dollars in debt. Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of either president.
Facts are way off, the country has been in debt for decades, the Clinton (yearly) surpluses never came to fruition. When Clinton left office the country was like 5.73 trillion in debt, when Bush left office e were 10.6 trillion in debt, we are now 16.4+ in debt.
The debt at the end of Clinton's term was not all his by any means it had accumulated over decades. Bush added almost 5 trillion and Obama has added just over 5 trillion. They will forever be the two presidents that sent us down a fiscal path that we WON'T recover from.
Success, because it pissed off TroyTide.
Glad to know I am that important to you.
Oh no Obama is a gay muslim atheist socialist who wants to take away my guns!!!!
You are! You're better than a psychiatrist or happy pills - any time I'm feeling slightly down, I can log on here, see your latest political post, and then just revel in the fact that I'm not you!
Since you got the initial deficit math correct, lets think a little more critically here.
How much of Obama's deficit was inherited due to the policies of his predecessors?
How much of the annual deficit is currently due to annual "recession era" tax revenues?
How much of the current deficit is a result of the Bush Tax Cuts?
How much of the deficit is due to Keynesian economic policy responses to the greatest recession since 1929? A recession inherited from financial and regulatory decisions from the Clinton/Bush era?
What has Obama done that could be considered "radical liberalism"?
Enhancing the drone program and in one case killing an American citizen?
An healthcare law that gives private insurance companies more payees?
Adding 33,000 troops to Afghanistan?
Not passing cap and trade laws?
Extending the TEMPORARY bush tax cut two more years, and then only eliminating the Tax cut for the top .05% (> $400,000) of Americans?
Deporting more illegal immigrants annually than his Republican predecessor?
Ending a military policy regarding sexuality that was both archaic and counter-productive?
Its amazing how much you guys are freaking out about a President that has essentially run the country as a center-left wing president.
QFT although I am a huge Clinton fan. We need to bring our troops home and keep them here
Hell, compared to the rest of the world's scale on left-right, Obama is a center-right politician, which qualifies him as a left-wing radical in the eyes of the American right.
Obama...biggest joke of a President ever! The idiot never takes responsibility for anything. The guy couldn't even pass a budget when his own party was in control. Four more years of hell for our country with a community organizer in charge.
Biggest problem I have with Obama is he has not ended the two wars as quickly as I would have liked.
The fact is, he has run the country as center-left, it only seems radical because of the way Fox News has been spinning the narrative for the last 15-20 years.
All of these gun arguments are ridiculous and sensationalized. Regulation is NOT prohibition.
Im sort of in the middle, i don't think Obama is as bad as some people make him out to be, but i also don't think he has done much either.
How's your job hunt going in the Obama economy. Still unemployed and talking about how great the President is?
"People always ask me if I wish I were bigger. I tell them no. I always wanted to be a miniature badass." Dustin Pedroia
A very true statement. UV for you.
Wait, wait, wait a second here Obama is the president?!?
That's funny as shit, however I do feel bad for people looking for jobs in this economy. I read an article in the WSJ that said unemployment for new college grads is the highest ever.
All Presidents inherit things, it's what they do about them that matters. Look, I understand that Bush opened the floodgates on this spending stuff, but I also understand that Obama has done absolutely nothing to fix it. He is as much to blame as Bush is and if it continues like this at the end of eight years he will be more so.
It doesn't matter what he is classified as, it only matters what the results are, and so far they are so-so. He hasn't destroyed the country like much of the Right claimed he would, but he hasn't done a whole lot for it either.
If they voted Obama I don't feel bad at all. He was elected on the youth and African American vote and those two groups are hurt the most by his policies as evidence of their unemployment numbers. Oh and by the way 80% of of Americans had their taxes go up not just the top 2% and Warren Buffet is still taxed at a lower rate than his secretary.
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