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You forgot about the playoff system which won't give OSU the adv it has with the current BCS format bc of their weak schedule.
This post was edited by jmsmooth33 8 months ago
Old BCS, yes, higher chance of getting there given mush schedule. Playoffs... Far more difficult.
In a couple of years SC will most likely be in the mix again. That will also drastically decrease Bucknuts chances
High profile QB's seldom win titles in CFB. Saban all day.
This post was edited by luciano 22 8 months ago
Weedline is so skurred
Still can't see a lot of 2-SEC team scenarios but I do agree that a playoff makes it a tougher gig, SEC or not. After a season of playing Purdue, Minnesota and Indiana, they'd have to play Texas, USC or Florida State and THEN Bama, LSU or Georgia.
If they have to play Bama AND LSU, well then that is a chip well earned.
Barton Simmons | 247Sports | National Recruiting Analyst | Twitter: @bartonsimmons
Lmao 3 Big 12 teams? Tough for a Big Ten team maybe
If you put OSU above Michigan because of Meyer, I get it, he has the hardware. Recruiting, not so much. I will use these 2 quotes from the Michigan board, OSU isn't dominating recruiting when compared to Michigan, especially when you consider those that didn't make it in their class.
UM finished one spot behind OSU in 2012 (5 and 6), then two spots in 2013 (2 and 4). Come on man. In 2013 OSU finished with 14 more 'points' in the rankings than UM. Compared to Neb (3rd in the B1G) which was 68 points behind UM, and MSU who were 97 points behind UM. In 2012, OSU finished 1 freaking point better than UM. Again, Neb was 70 points behind UM. UM and OSU the last two classes have recruited on the same level. It will come down to coaching, development, game planning, luck at that point.
Hell, if you subtract Joey O'Connor, David Perkins, and SeVon Pittman from the 2012 class, while subtracting Tim Gardner from the 2013 class, we've "objectively" recruited better. Who gives a crap how many stars your recruiting class has if a bunch of them are barely making it on campus before leaving?
They shit on you for years... Conference change wont change that...but i get it... aTm getting better players can compete after years of barely doing so.. but tOSU getting better players cannot compete?
Last 2 years, Ohio St has recruited better or on par... And they are recruiting MUCH better this year.
Jayln, Prince and Mavety may all end up agreeing...
This post was edited by BBucksorBeGone8 8 months ago
Urban shits himself in the face of adversity. All it'll take is an injury to Braxton or his horse skill player, and he wont be able to adapt.
I don't get how dominating B1G recruiting relates to winning a NC.
I have to agree with the other posters ITT talking about the playoff making this much harder for Barton's prognostications to come true.
Like it or not, most years the SEC is going to have 2 teams in the four team playoff. Remaining 2 spots go to the best between the B1G, Big 12, and Pac 12. Assuming Bucky gets to the playoff, they would have to beat two SEC schools to win it all (assuming the two SEC schools are not matched up in the 1st round). That's a task that I believe would be too difficult to complete in most years by OSU.
That's why I've have always held the belief that the only equitable way to conduct a playoff is to have at a minimum 8, giving all conference (real conferences, i.e., SEC, B1G, Big 12, PAC 12, ACC) champion spots and 3 at-large spots to enable a great Boise team and two power conference runner-ups access. Making it 4 teams does not really do anything than make the people who are already making all the money off of the BCS system more money. To me there is no parity on it at all; more than the previous system but not nearly enough to justify what has been said of the oncoming playoff.
Started at the bottom, now we here.....better get used to it.
Those items we never equated best i can tell. I mean if it were true... FSU would have ....tons of hardware the way they recruited and ran through the Big East.
If OSU has the players on the same elite status the SEC does... which are coming... how so? Seems to me what IS coming is the problem... im good with that...
Being top 5 year after year is dominating just about everyone in recruiting... SEC or not.
Urbs FL teams could run a gauntlet like that, but remains to be seen if he can package that kind of beef and speed combo at tOSU.
Ohio has some great players but the FL pool much deeper, obv... TBD.
This post was edited by brem22 8 months ago
I agree with this, that's why he's going more national than he did at UF.
Yeah I just was looking at your class last year. Only one I could remember being from south was VB.
That's an arse load of talent from all over.
Honestly the only 2 teams in the SEC that I could see giving tOSU trouble is UA and LSU. The rest of the teams are on par with our conference IMO.
A couple more recruiting cycles and we will have elite talent in depth at our positions. We already have one of the best head coaches in America.
Edit: didn't mean to quote Seth.
This post was edited by ManontheMoon 8 months ago
This is what southern homers don't get. With the level of talent Ohio State is bringing in, they can compete with any team in the SEC besides Bama right now (Bama is just loaded and deep with 5 star talent and excellent coaching). I would love to have played Georgia last year (they almost beat Bama in the SEC championship and struggled against a Nebraska team we creamed). Florida's offense was lackluster last year and their defense folded against the one offense they faced with a pulse, which plays into Ohio State's strengths. LSU crapped the bed in their bowl game for the second straight year. What about them was supposed to scare us? You can bring up a game from almost 6 years ago all you want but you would then be comparing us to an offensively anemic team that ran an easily shred-able zone defense. Urban's Buckeyes are different than that. Barton brings up a good point. All the southerners that want to look at Jim Tressel's 2007 team as the paradigm of how Ohio State will always be are being pretty ignorant. The one thing I disagree with is that Ohio State would lose to whoever the SEC would put there. Aside from Bama, I don't see a single SEC team that can't be beaten by a big time non SEC school. Bama is just on another level right now. But we'll catch up to them soon. Especially since M*chigan, BoB's Penn State, and Pat Fitzgerald are helping raise the competition level of the B1G.
OSU having not only the "same" elite players as the top teams in the SEC from year to year but also the quantity of those players from the top to the bottom of your depth chart will take at least 2 if not 3 years.
Only time will tell if what you say is true.
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