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Gonna be to repeal? I'm not quite sure of all the steps and I'm too lazy to look it up.
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It would probably stay.
Tougher than you'd think to repeal. He'd need 60 votes in the Senate and right now the GOP only has 47 seats.
Romney won't be able to keep his promise of repealing it day one if elected. He can really only hope to delay it by tying the bill up in legislation as long as possible.
Yeah it's gonna be tough. Hopefully he can convince 13 that its a terrible idea.
Obamacare is already passed legislation. Cannot stop it - can only alter the benefit rules and regs.
Doubtful. If there's one thing we all know to be true about how the Senate and the House work, even if supporting or overturning a bill is a good idea, those of the opposite party will do everything in their power to stonewall the process and vote accordingly. Which is sad, because I'm almost positive it hasn't always been like this.
You can always repeal legislation. You just need Congress to approve it and the President to sign it. But it's gonna be very difficult. I'd expect Romney to give a half-assed attempt at repealing it and then move on to something else.
Under budget reconciliation you only need 50 senators to repeal. VP breaks ties.
I believe this is correct. The SCOTUS decision declaring it a tax makes is a matter of budget reconciliation needing 50 votes.
To completely repeal, you'd likely need 60 votes in the Senate. I think the GOP will take the Senate, but not the filabuster proof 60 votes and I know there will be at least 1 or 2 Dems willing to FB to block any repeal.
The easy way is to kill all funding for it, the house controls the budget (initially, must pass through Senate and signed by Prez). I think this is the likely way that it will be crippled (strangle it financially).
Now if Romney gets elected and things strart to turn around, maybe the GOP can get 60+ in the mid-term elections. I haven't looked at which Senate seats are up in the 2014 mid-term, so I don't even know if that is possible.
Like above said, you need fifty
Good point. Declaring it a tax was a double edged sword for the Dems. A simple majority in both houses and the oval office is all that is needed to repeal this.
The house can defund portions of the law and Romney could also invoke executive orders to halt portions of the law as well But full repeal would have to come from the Senate. The house has already repealed it and the legislation would just need to be picked up Senate.
Also if the GOP really wanted to do it. They could use the "nuclear" option and get rid of the filibuster and make it an straight up it down vote. But neither said wants to do that since the filibuster will no longer be able to be used by either side.
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BLF, I think you are being a bit homerish. We will see in a couple of weeks, but right now I would not put a $1 on Obama winning. He is behind in the RCP electoral map (average of all of the polls). In the Gallup, Romney is ahead of where each of the winning presidents were at this time in their campaign all the way back to Carter in '76. I know I am a bit of an anti-homer here (more anti-Obama than pro-Romney), but I really don't think Obama is going to be in the Oval office after this January.
As for the senate, 42 of the GOP seats are safe, to only 37 for the Dems. The remaining ones fall under leans or toss-ups. I don't think either side will get much more than 50 and certainly not the FB proof 60, but I wouldn't bet much on a Dem setate either.
Again, these are polls which is a subset of statistics. As we all know, there are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damn lies and statistics (thank you Mark Twain). With that in mind, I wouldn't be too sure of an Obama re-election or Harry contolling the Senate come next year.
Supreme Court didn't decide it was a tax they just declared that it was a tax because it is. it was introduced as some homeowners tax in 09 and was given to the United States House Committee on Ways and Means, which deals with all taxes and tariffs that go through the house. It was still a tax when obama signed off on it Even though tax got taken out of the title when the senate submitted an amendment and renamed it to whatever its real name is
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Budget Reconcilliation wouldn't repeal it. It could only send the bill to a subcommittee to amend part that could be agreed upon.
Well that settles it, a republican will be the next president.
Since the legislation will be enforced by the IRS, Romney's Sec Treas could mandate that the law NOT be enforced.
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Obamacare will actually lower the deficit, don't know why you'd want it repealed unless you're just stupid..
LOL so anyone who disagrees with Obamacare is stupid? Geezus that's a cynically retarted statement.
Given that it will lower the deficit there is no fiscal or morally defensible reason to repeal it.
Frankly the only reason to do so is to get Republicans a political win. Other than that, you must just be a truly petty person to not want to help your fellow man.
In fact, studies have shown that it would be cheaper tI clothe, feed and house every homeless person in the US than to leave them on the street. They spend so much time in emergency rooms because of malnutrition and illness it costs us more than their living expenses would. Plus those living expenses would make them healthier and less susceptible to disease.
Romney is losing in Ohio and the election is coming down to who wins Ohio. I'm a Republican and hope Romney wins, but Obama at this point is most likely getting re-elected.
Whats the final verdict Hawkins because a second ago all who opposed obamacare were stupid. NOW we're petty, selfish AND stupid. I'm almost certain if you ran this country you would tax the fk out of every "hard working" American to make sure the illegal aliens, high school dropouts, baby factory mommas, the lazies, the obese and the few homeless who amazingly still have money for drugs and alcohol all got their fair share of free fkn handouts so they can live equal to if not better than the hard working middle class right. It's a rhetorical question so don't answer. I believe in helping others on my own dime and if that means I'm selfish, petty and stupid then show me the sign up list so I can add my name to it.
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