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This post was edited by Ollie North 19 months ago
Dat was a beast.
just want to add a little perspective to this debate
3 time POTW, member since 2006, MLWTI: 4-3
lol, facts are a bitch aren't they....we all know why he's even in the conversation.....it's ok, no really, it's ok
Will be great when he wins it. Just to watch all you crying pu$$ies have a meltdown.
Will ask you something. Why is he winning all these awards? Do the people that are voting for these awards not know anything?
So, does this mean we can finally stop all the Mark Ingram was overrated talk?
Sympathy. His grandma and girlfriend died. Played through adversity and helped Notre Dame become relevant again.
Fides Quaerens Intellectum
Derrick Thomas had an NCAA record 27 sacks in 1988 & finished 10th in the Heisman race.
Teo has no chance to win it. Manziel is winning by a ton. They were saying it will be right behind newton in terms of the vote..... So around 7th highest vote total ever
This post was edited by coolstorybro 19 months ago
10 Major Poll National Titles (CFB record)
35 Bowl Wins (CFB record)
72 Wins over last 6 years (CFB record)
Add Derrick Thomas to this..
He finished 10th in the heisman poll, but yet Teo is a finalist? Yeah ok
I feel like "intangibles," which have no real measuring stick, matter more and more to voters each year. I mean, that's the only reason Matthieu won DPotY while at the same time not being voted the best at his position, which ironically was given to a guy on his own team.
88 solo tackles
4 blocked kicks
1 fumble recovery
In 12 games
For real, it's just stupid.
Even Shazier this year for Ohio State has better stats... And he should not be a heisman candidate.
If he wins I'll congratulate him. Will not cry like most of the pussies on this board that bitch about everything ND.
This post was edited by irishyoung 19 months ago
Every year is a totally different situation.
True. But teo doesn't have near the stats necessary from a defender. No sacks, no tfl, no points. His stats are not eye popping or even near eye popping. Manziel deserves this more than anyone. Teo shouldn't even be invited.
He's there so deal with it. Like I said, if Manziel win I'll congratulate him. Something I won't see if Te'o wins.
And that is the point. He's not there because he is one of the most outstanding players. He's there because he plays for nd.
Kevin Minter also has better stats than Te'o but I guess stats don't mean crap anymore.
One thing, who won the Heisman during the year of that TAMU player? Because this years finalists are one of the weakest groups I've ever seen. You have to equate that into the discussion, IMO.
Danielle Hunter, Jamario Rasco, Anthony FREAK Johnson.. DL wrecking crew of 2013.
Whatever you say buddy.
Every year is different.
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