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If the NCAA was serious about having true student athletes, they would do the things I said. You simply have a different view of how things should be (the SEC view).
Your numbers are way, way off for Penn State.
Bama signed seven more players than Texas over the course of four years. We've had more players than that leave early for the NFL draft over that time-span. Also not included in the phantom numbers provided by the hack on Oversigning.com are how many of our guys are JUCO and go pro after only two years instead of four.
LULZ the butthurt ITT is great. All the fanbases from other conferences are mad that we don't share our recruits in the south.
bottom line ? (grayshirts arent always "injured players".)
i would have loved to see Bama get 3* OG Spencer "Flipper" Region in 2011 as a grey shirt. he would have spent his first 3-6 months on campus w/ his own dime & then been eligible to redshirt.
in short, he could have entered 2013 as a 21+ year old 6-6 350 lb redshirt freshman man-child w/ nearly two years in / around the system & a full four to play.
someone must have agreed w/ me because Clemson gave him a full ride.
no i have a realistic view. you sign a LOI for free schooling based on your ability to play football. that is the only reason a player gets a football scholarship. if the player isn't up to par a year later....drop him. He is free to go about any of the other means regular nonathletic students use to obtain free schooling. by being dropped from an athletic scholarship, the player isn't sentenced to never graduating.
The whole notion that by being good at football in high school should somehow give a kid the right to an entire 4 year degree for free is stupid. this isn't kindergarten where every gets a pass.
10 Major Poll National Titles (CFB record)
35 Bowl Wins (CFB record)
72 Wins over last 6 years (CFB record)
Just like Kiffin lying to Massington about his scholly.
go read up on Christian Jones. Prior to committing to Alabama he said in an interview that he knew every year at Alabama he and every other player would be evaluated for inclusion for the next year. He said he loved it. That's what a system like this gives you.....the best from every player....there is no complacency because your spot is not promised. The kids know it going in and want it. So, what's the problem again?
Oh he's happy now, but according to his coaches and people around their program, Kiffin lied and screwed the kid over. Needless to say Kiffin won't be welcome back in Mesquite for awhile.
Hope you enjoyed 7-5 because it won't get much better. Saban, on the other hand, is coaching in his 3rd Natty in four years. Maybe you should worry about you own pitiful program and get off Saban's and the rest of the SEC's nuts. Keep the excuses up though and deflect.
Haters gonna hate. Hilarious!!!!
nice avatar pic kettle
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What research needs to be gone? Holes were found... that's all there is to it... there NO WAY someone should be able to sign 34 people in 1 class..... that's damn near 1/2 your team!
I personally dont have an issue with it... do I think its unfair? yes, but lots of things are unfair in life. so screw it! Things will eventually work itself out (whether other conf raise the limit or whatever the case is).
I know if I was in the SEC, I would do the EXACT same thing.... work EVERY advantage you can get! That's why they are the best, as much as I hate to say it.
This post was edited by OHSethIO 19 months ago
Dude its not that hard to realize. If a team dont have 85 kids on scholly, and didnt sign a full class the year before. They can sign more than 25 so long as some of the kids are EEs and will rollback to the previous class(numbers wise), you people are so dumb you act like A&M is gunna sign 34 kids EVERY year. Gets your facts straight. You are just jealious, the top recruits are flocking to the SEC are you cant stand it. Just admit it
Lots of silly posts on this thread, but this one takes the cake! Well done, sir.
Like I said, you have an SEC mentality.
Ok, so how about this... they have 88 kids on the roster, 17 seniors/graduated, and 34 commits, so what does that equal? 105.... so they have to cut 20 people (not counting the juniors who go pro, and potential drop outs/transfer)
LIKE I SAID, I'm not hating on them... they FOUND A LOOP HOLE! and I would do the exact same thing if I was them.
I have no problem with it. This isn't confidential information. The recruit can come here for free and look at how many commits a team has. If the team has 49, and you are number 50, then on signing day they tell you sorry, you gonna blame the school because you were a complete dumbass?
Oversigning is not just a SEC issue. The people who continue to try make it only a SEC issue are just jealous. Those people dont really deserve any
I have looked up some old recruiting classes over the last decade and there are plenty of Big 12 teams, Pac 12 teams, and ACC teams who have oversigned during that time. However, nobody makes a big deal out of what those conferences do because they simply arent as successful as the SEC
This post was edited by aubie25 19 months ago
No way... didn't see see Aubie's post? It's a problem everywhere... stop scapegoating with numbers and facts!!
From 2009-'12 recruiting classes, Bama has signed 103.
2009: (Signed 28)
Transfers (6) - Bowman, Marrow, Moore (transferred for Texas), Sentimore (suspended then transferred), P. Smith, Woodson
NFL (3) - Carpenter, Dre K, T. Rich
Medical (2) - K. Kelly, McKeller
2010: (Signed 26)
Failed to Qual (3) - Belue, Dial, A. Hill
Transfers (4) - Carswell (suspended then transferred), C. Grant, Malone(suspended then transferred), P, Sims (Transferred to UVA)
Grad/Other (2) - B. Lewis, J. Williams (baseball)
NFL (1) - Menzie
2011: (Signed 23)
D. Carter (kicked off/transferred), Douglas (RIP)
2012: (Signed 26)
Dixon (transferred), B. Hill (JUCO)
Out of the 103 signed, 25 are no longer on the team bringing the total to 78.
We have seven guys that are fifth year SR's from the '08 class, bringing our total to 85.
The tears on this board are so sweet.
Define "suspended then transferred", "other", and "did not qualify"
The guys I mentioned above as "suspended then transferred" were constantly getting in trouble. They would be suspended for a day or two, then back with the team. A week or two later, they were suspended once again. Saban gives the players a multiple chances to right their wrong's. In quite a few cases players have got out of his doghouse, but the one's I mentioned kept getting in trouble.
As far as "other", I elaborated on that one. Williams went on to play baseball.
If you don't know what DNQ means, then you don't belong on a recruiting message board. The guy never made it to campus due to grades.
The numbers dont reflect the numbers of players who actually got into school. Auburn had 22 players admitted in 2009, 21 in 2009, 30 players in 2010, 24 players in 2011, and 18 players in 2012. Four or five of the 30 players admitted in 2010 were jucos, so they only had two years of eligibility to start with. However, we wouldnt want actually facts to get in the way of your idiotic rants
Auburn actually had around 115 players make it in to school during that time. This would be less than Michigan, Oregon, UCLA ,Oklahoma, and a bunch of other schools on that list assuming all their recruits made it into school
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by aubie25 19 months ago
Yes, that's the point! The Big Ten schools don't sign 10 players that are questionable academically knowing that most will not make it. But hey, if one does, that low-three star kid who didn't even get on the field yet to prove himself and GTFO. What, he already moved into his dorm? Too bad! SEC baby!
A ton of butthurt in this post.
Big 10 schools just cover up little boys being raped in the shower. Of course, this isnt as bad as signing kids who are borderline academically lol
Do you know how I know I won an argument? When the person I am arguing with has to pull out a Sandusky reference.
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