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Yeah and that's terrible. But, all those men are gone and all that's left is our outstanding academics, research, athletics, alumni and fanbase. And that is why the ACC would take us in a second. And that is also why Delany would never even think of kicking us out.
Fingers are still crossed.
Meyer4Prez "This is wut happens when ur team site analyst are huge homers glad Bill K+Alex G keep it real instead of getting our hopes up."
I'm all for this scenario!
Don't see it happening though...not in my lifetime.
"DOMINATE the state" - James Franklin 1/11/14
I have a hard time believing Penn State carries a huge presence in all these areas. I have family close to the Pittsburgh area. When I used to go visit them, people up there seemed to care about the Steelers 100 times more than they cared about Penn State
Just ask a Penn State fan how well they're received in these areas, you'll get a straight answer. It's the same attitude of self-importance and unscathed ethics that allowed PSU to cover up horrible crimes for a decade. Their fans fall into lock step march with this attitude also.
The big ten did very well without Penn State. It won't happen, but who really gives a rats behind whether we have to treck up there once every couple of years to see the empty spot where they used to keep the statue of the corrupt coach. See you later.
You are right about one thing PSU is a great academic university but no matter what you say, or your fan bases says you will never erase the negative reputation/stigma of what PSU is known for and there in is the dilema.
PSU cannot wash away their reputation it will always be there and it will be what prevents another AQ conference from taking you on.
That really is the bottom line....
Tattoos and all the silly little minor issues with other programs just don't matter. Everytime a psu fan spouts off their idiotic superior attitude the end of every discussion is you're school, athletic department and coaches failed on a colossal level.
You would think with the last year the fan base would have learned some humility... The majority didn't. If this didn't do, I don't think anything will.
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I pray every night PSU leaves the big 10, PSU belongs in the ACC. OSU and MU can keep there overrated conference. I have no respect for the Big 10, say what you want, Big 10 needs PSU, PSU doesn't need that crap conference. Lets take our money to the ACC, I rather go to ACC towns for away games. Columbus OH is a crap town!!
So let's say you're correct and the big ten sucks. ( I actuall tend to agree). So PSU is an average team in a suck conference. I mean if they had been kicking ass I'd say one thing. But they are a very average big ten team.
Jesus son, you're that dumb that you can't realize that?
This year we are average, and years before sometimes below average. Thats a fact, I understand that point, even with some really bad PSU teams, we sold out games, and travel very very well. Very high rating when on TV(large PSU fan base, and the haters even tune in). Big ten has been overrated, thats also a fact. ACC schools have a large PSU alumni base around them, and going to Miami, North Car., FSU, even VT, or Iowa, MU, and OSU. Thats a no brianer. Your a complete retard for thinking I said we ran the Big10, never even came close to saying that. PSU gets beat by OSU, but makes more money than OSU, because I guess they have unemployed alumni.
Jesus Dad, look at the big picture dumbass
How in the world did we survive before you got here? How will we when you leave? Are you taking the b1G Network as well?
Oy vey. First of all, you're not refuting anything he said. He was talking about records and you're not. Second, you probably shouldn't call someone a retard while misusing your/you're in the same sentence.
You're making us look pretty bad...
The ACC would take PSU in a second. And the best thing for the ACC and ND would be for ND to get left out of the MNC game @ 12-0....if they were all in this year and oppositeFSU they could possibly get the boost they would need, and that won't change going forward when there are 4 in.
No big12, ACC is a good place for the lions, you will survive like you did before, just with less money and no PSU to kick around
I also think recruits favor the ACC over the Big10, BIG plus for PSU
Less $$$ how? We will still get our shares of BCS Bowl revenue...we immediately wouldn't have any post season banned teams hanging over us. B1G shares from the Network will continue to sky rocket regardless of who is accepting them...and as far as kicking you guys...you thought it was fun as hell over tat gate didn't you? You enjoyed the warmth of the sun making fun of Terelle Pryor and his " everyone kills people " comment huh? TOSU was comedy gold from Beaver Stadium for a minute wasn't it....?
Well look what happened on the way to climbing on that high horse 1 time too many......
Not sure how you came up with that, but if that's just a gut feeling, mine says differently. However, in PSU's case, PSU doesn't recruit as many midwestern kids as it does mid-atlantic, so it may help PSU there.
It's undeniable that you'd make more money with PSU in the conference than without, unless we were replaced by ND or another big time football school. TV contracts are more attractive with PSU than without. There's no championship game without a 12th team either. It's just a fact. That said, it's not like you'd be hurting for cash, and the B1G woudl still be a cash cow without PSU, just slightly less big than it could be with PSU.
No, the tat gate was the worst, getting free tats is not a 2 year bowl ban crime. How does getting a tattoo help your competitive edge? it doesn't, and Terelle Pryor isn't a bad kid, media had a field day with that poor kid.
PSU is a high grossing brand, that is a fact, not sure how you can argue that
I'm not arguing it...but if PSU left ..the $$$ isn't going to stop flowing though the conference...it will drop your yearly revenue to leave.
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Here's the big picture son: You're average in the Big Ten. You say our conference sucks. (lets agree) You go to a tougher conference with 15 fewer schollies cause you've run a beyond corrupt program for years. Basically a scum of the earth type people who ran it- going to prison type scum bags, including Joe Pa had he lived. You'll get your tail handed to you in other "tougher" conferences. Will you still be "traveling well" with no bowl games? with 4-8 records? Will you still sell out your stadium? Sure we can say you might, other statistics of losing teams tell us something diffferent, unless your fan base is like the Green Bay Packers nuts who will sell out a green and gold scrimmage in August. Perhaps they are.
But here's the bottom line. If you think the Big tens revenue slows down a bit, you're out of your mind. The BTN will do just fine.
Good luck in the new conference you're looking for. I wish the kids on the team and those who are coming well. I wish the staff well who has done a great job in adversity (other than Larry Johnson who also knew what was going on). The kids don't deserve the crap the criminal Joe Paterno, your school President, your A.D. and Sandusky has brought on them. They didn't know they were playing for criminals, and for a corrupt administration. It' s not their fault.
disagree, and I LOVE Joe and always will, may he rest in peace.
As long as those victims are at peace, may he rest in peace also.
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