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The fact that you still do not understand that smashmouth Alabama style football is way more dangerous than any other type shows how big of a fool you truly are.
Agreed. Playing Alabama's monsters is dangerous for the opposition.
How is that more than enough? You are taking stats from one year and saying that's enough. Plus, I don't actually believe these stats. How were these even attained. The terminology used in the OP were basically speculation of how fast is fast enough to be considered hurry up.
If Saban and Bielema are really worried about player safety, they should transition to the HUNH immediately, IMO.
No one said anything about Alabama. Of course playing Alabama is more dangerous. Not every team is Alabama though. I'm merely pointing out that your speculation based statistics are not conclusive even if they were true.
This post was edited by Crimson Life 9 months ago
stats from one year... compiled of the top 20 teams in the FBS and then the top 15 teams in the AQ... The stats for slow paced play and starts lost per play are not significantly different... they are however with the fast paced offenses but it is actually trending downward....
Dive for the thrill, shoot for the kill.
his data set is showing the opposite of what you are suggesting, can you point at a flaw in his analysis that would provide more evidence to what you're suggesting ?
edit - saw you asking for other years worth of data, which is a reasonable point.
also questioning the attainment of these stats is reasonable.
This post was edited by horned_lurker 9 months ago
What I gained from that: SEC plays defense.
If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.
I see both view points and could really care less either way. However, most teams that run the fast-break offense suck on defense.
The SEC plays slower, but the injury numbers have less to do with the pace (fast or slow) and more to do with the talent. Just look at the NFL draft numbers for confirmation.
The Big 12 and PAC 12 (outside of SC and Stanford) are glorified flag football conferences.
bama fans are dense
Not really difficult to grasp. The better the defense, the more likely a player on either side of the ball is to be injured. Oregon missed two offensive starts last season according to Dave Bartoo @cfbmatrix.
What happened to Oregon when they played a physical LSU defense to open the 2011 season?
"No. 4 LSU handled the No. 3 Ducks 40-27 before 87,711 in a game in which UO running backs LaMichael James and Kenjon Barner both hobbled off the field with apparent lower leg injuries."
Injury numbers have way less to do with pace and more to do with quality opponents. Teams that run the HUNH wouldn't be able to sustain depth if they played against a physical defense each week. If there weren't concerns over offensive injuries, then why does the NCAA keep changing defensive rules?
maybe you shouldn't play dirty
our O is because we prison jackhammer rape everyone
LULZ coming from chop block U.
Why is he doing missed starts instead of injuries sustained during a game? Injuries are Injuries no matter what. You can be injured and not miss a start. Also, wouldn't he have to include injuries which occur outside of the actual games to do this? it seems like his logic is flawed. How can injuries which happened outside of a game (practice, life, etc.) be affected by the style of play during a game. It's probably a small number and maybe he took that into account, but with a quick glance it seems like his numbers are BS. Also, if more plays are run during a game then there are more chances for injuries to occur. Thus "fast" offenses increase the chances of an injury during a game. I don't understand how people can deny that logic.
Also, it's not black/white like everyone seems to be making it out. Strength & conditioning play a huge part as well as how physical the practices are.(Duh!) Wear and tear adds up eventually no matter what.
Where are the numbers for that team's defensive injuries? After all, that defense is on the field much longer than the offense and should be taken into account.
It's because his stats, like all, are skewed to show what he wants to show.
Just a question but how exactly does running a hurry up offense lead to less injuries? Forget the stats but how does the action cause those results? Simply put, if Bama runs a regular pace offense and it leads to 65 plays per game, we expect a certain number of injuries to occur. If we go hurry up and run 80+ plays, I would expect more injuries but you say the opposite would happen. I want to know why.
I think I understand why the stats(if accurate) say what they do. Most of the hurry teams are not physical and play soft.
This post was edited by bamabum5 9 months ago
Chip Kelly knew he was never putting his players at risk... but actually giving them a better chance to succeed and not be injured... now he takes his talents to the NFL
His current scheme won't work in the NFL. His offense may be somewhat similar to look like the Pats, although he doesn't have anyone close to Brady's talent on the roster. Plus, the NFL is only allowed 53 players on their roster and Chip know's his scheme would put way too much pressure on his defense and injuries would begin to mount.
This. All I was saying is that more plays equal a higher probability for injury. These statistics are weighted due to the finesse offenses that run the HUNH. The HUNH doesn't have to be all finesse. Auburn ran more of a power style with Cam. I doubt any of those teams the OP listed does that.
but the HUNH produces less injuries
The new Arky coach sure has the Aubs riled up.
It's getting snippy for that 6th spot in the West this season.
I'm going to laugh my ass off when AU has 13 injuries by their 5th game. I know that's not the point of this thread, but it's going to be funny anyway.
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