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You guys got Williams, Reeves, O'Conner, Schutt, and Spence was considered a lock to PSU before the scandal hit. So frankly, you guys benefited quite well.
Exactly. 5 guys, all blue chippers. PSU's class was excellent last year until the scandal hit, and no team benefited more from it than OSU.
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Urban Meyer is not only the best recruiter in the B1G, he's in the top 3 in the country. And that's providing leeway. IMO, he's the best, but Saban may be...
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_ichigan Football would be Minnesota without The Great State of Ohio!! O-H! I-O!
He's certainly top 3 in the country and best in the B1G. But honestly, when you have classes like Michigan and OSU, you are really splitting hairs when you try to claim that one is better than the other. The important thing is to get kids that can win a natty, and both teams have those players in this class. Whether one is slightly better than the other is irrelevant.
I didnt know a you could field 11 offensive lineman and win a natty..
You only play 5 at a time...
But I know what you mean.
Ya I get that, but with no play makers that talent is not winning a natty.
Give Hoke two more years and you will see them playing in his offense (vs a wierd BS hybrid thing that they run now). That will help a lot.
Allen Robinson was a 3 star recruit for us who didn't look impressive on film and wasn't making any noise with the previous staff. This year, he was the B1G WR of the year and was one of the best in the nation. We won't know if Michigan will have playmakers until we play the games.
I can't wait for them to go pro style. We do much better against that then the option.
I think it's more of a case that there aren't many teams running a pro style offense anymore with elite talent. If you have that, you win championships (see Bama).
Wilson needs to be given more credit here
PSU now in the top 25 despite sanctions. All things considered, BOB has to be no worse than #3 on the list.
Why is this even debatable?
Urban Meyer by a landslide.
Maybe number 2, Its really a toss up between him and Mattison. I am not flaming Hoke I just think Mattison is the better recruiter between the 2.
PSU was on it's way to a monster class before sanctions. Gregg Webb, Dorian Johnson, Zach Bradshaw, Will Fuller, and Ross Douglas were all committed to PSU. We also had a great chance to land Nadir Barnwell, David Williams and Tyler Boyd. Who knows who else we would have been in on.
The point is, if PSU can somehow keep BOB through these sanctions, he is going to be an elite recruiter. Top 25 with the most severe sanctions outside of the death penalty. Are you kidding me!!??
I Still think we lose Douglass regardless of sanctions..... pretty sure Douglass was already visiting schools pre sanctionsanywho our class wouldve looked something like this if we had no sanctions.... IMO (Assuming Bolden and Jones transfer still.... Jones is dropping to Robert Morris, he could play immediatly without the sanctions and Bolden was 3rd on the depth chart and still had his rs, he was gonna leave)
Stars are for 247 composite
QB Christian Hackenberg 5*
QB Jake Waters 3* EE
RB David Williams 4*
WR Tyler Boyd 4*
WR Will Fuller 3*
WR Brian Lemelle 3*
TE Adam Breneman 4* EE
OT Dorian Johnson 4*
OT Andrew Nelson 3*
OG Brandon Mahon 4*
DE Garrett Sickels 4*
DE Curits Cothran 3*
DE DaJuan Drennan 4*
DT Greg Webb 4*
DT Rod Crayton 3*
OLB Zayd Issah 3*
OLB Zach Bradshaw 3*
MLB Brandon Bell 3*
MLB Jonathan Walton 3*
CB Nadir Barnwell 4*
CB Jordan Smith 3* EE
CB Anthony Smith Unranked EE
S Malcom Cook 3*
S Kasey Gaines 3*
S Neiko Robinson 3*
K/P Chris Gulla Unranked
Obviously some things wouldve played out differently but that is a damn good class for a first year HC
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No, Ross was firmly a PSU commit until the sanctions came. He would have been a Lion.
Your list looks good, but a couple of guys likely would not be here. Drennan would have certainly committed to PSU, but we were (and still are) full at DE. Kasey Gaines and Anthony Smith would not have been offered as well. Honestly though, we have recovered pretty well all things considered.
i tried finding other cornerbacks to put in and i couldn't think of any that were all about us pre sanctions... minus douglass
Just Barnwell really. And we were doing really, really well with him. Outside of them, there really weren't any others. A large part of that was the lack of quality DBs in our region for this class. We were incredibly lucky to find Jordan Smith.
With what BOB is doing at Penn State, with the sanctions, and still getting talent, I have to put him in the top three if not two. Hoke has not won anything for people to give him accolades.
Somehow the OP went missing from tbb once UM started losing
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