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I've seen some vague tweets on twitter today referencing some new rumors regarding the Big 12. Does anyone know what the rumors are or have any insight? Thanks
The only thing for sure, is that Bowlsby is meeting with the other presidents about expansion on January 29th. Bowlsby also said before that expansion would not happen unless the perfect teams became available.
Me thinks he is going to make a move for ACC teams. FSU, Clemson, Miami, GT.
I'm torn. I want the Big 12 to expand because I think it's unfair that y'all have no championship game. However, I don't want the SEC to expand any more and if your scenario occurred, we probably would (VT and NC State). Mostly for selfish reasons. I'll be graduating from Alabama in May and moving back to Texas. I was counting on having Alabama play in College Station every other year (a game I wouldn't have to fly to). If the SEC goes to 16, that game would likely be in jeopardy. I'd think they'd give us LSU, Auburn, and Tennessee every year, but beyond that, who knows how the divisions and/or other permanent opponents would work out.
This post was edited by FortWorthTide 18 months ago
I like the round robin format. Everyone plays everyone. The way it should be. Its great for the fans. While adding those 4 teams would definitely strengthen the conference, it would add the same problem the SEC has. A schedule missing some of the best matchups in the conference. What happens when Texas doesn't play FSU, Clemson, Miami, or WVU from the east, and instead plays Iowa State and Kansas? I'll tell you what happens, the fans lose.
The Big 12 isn't going to have a football network, which means expansion is less important. Like my post last night, the richest conference per school last year was the Big 12 at $26.2 Million. That doesn't include the tier 3 contract that each school can sell. Kansas made another $6.5 Million just for their tier 3. WVU is going to be right around that. Expanding just to expand will take money away from schools that are already in the conference. Big 10 gets their money from a network. That is why they can go out and get schools like Maryland and Rutgers. Yes, they suck but they also have a lot of TV's in their area. Big 12 can't do that. We would need schools like FSU, Miami, and Clemson. Big time schools so it ups the TV packages with FOX and ESPN.
That is why I think those are the schools we are after.
Round robin does have its benefits, but I'll take the benefits of a championship game in most years. Unless you have poorly balanced divisions, like the old Big 12, you end up with a marquee matchup the last week of the season in most years. That game is often a "playoff game" in terms of atmosphere, hype, and significance - see Alabama Florida twice and Alabama UGA last year. Three out of the last 5 determined who made the NC game. One team may not play the toughest schedule from the other division in a particular year, but the best team from each division must always face the other with everything on the line at the end of the year. I think that's far better for the fans.
True, but you only play about 60% of your conference during the season. What is the point of a conference if you don't come close to playing everyone?
Its ruining college football. The fans lose.
Lets not pretend that playing every big 12 team is interesting. Road trips are awful.
Not pretending anything. I'm simply saying that playing all of the teams in your conference allows the fans to win because they get to see all of the match ups. Even with 12 schools, its OK if you are playing a 9 game conference schedule because you only miss out on 2 match ups. With 14 teams... Well you get Alabama not playing UGA, Florida, or South Carolina. That last part is just an example. It ruins the meaning of a conference, IMO, and the fans suffer by missing out on good match ups.
I say the same thing about the Big 10, which is about to be the Big 14. If the PAC went to 14 I would say the same thing. Conferences are getting too big, and its killing rivalries and match ups.
Well we will be playing south Carolina every year so ill be enjoying some trips to Charleston. I heard Ames is nice though.
You think Charleston is anything special? Hate it there. Austin is much nicer. Never been to Ames, so I can't comment.
Austin? Lol maybe besides the hobos and hippies. I can go there whenever.
Wouldn't mind if we went to 16 or 18 and added two or four of Va. Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, Duke or N.C. State.
Charleston was named the #1 travel destination in the world.
I think GT may be Big 10 bound eventually
We're gonna target VT and NC State
UNC and Duke aren't going to happen
Remember it's about money and TV markets
You better think about what the B10 will be doing, all I see on here is B12 and SEC, schools want the B10 money, and Delaney will not be sitting by as he watchs schools that he wants go to other conferences.
Okay, so I'm gonna take NYC ALL YEAR ROUND, the swiss alps in winter, paris and lyon in spring, Maine in the fall and bora bora in the summer. meh, maybe a couple trips here and there to say St. Petersburg (the venice of russia), Zambia and some white water rafting and a jaunt down to Jaco Beach and surf in paradise.
But Charleston is WAY up there on the list!
Dude, it might be nice there, but it's not even top 150 if you asked random people around america and the world for that matter, where would you like your next vacation?
Its all personal preference, but you are way off. Charleston is an awesome city, and your acting like the above poster named it the #1 city and not a respectable publication. Good beaches, great food, and a university that has a 6-1 girl to guy ratio....you are right, it sounds terrible.
This post was edited by Bodhi 18 months ago
If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.
heard the sec has been talking to north carolina and duke for the last 2 years. if i were va. tech and nc state i would not get left behind! hope we go to 18.
18 just seems to make more sense, even if you have to go to a 10 game conference schedule (8 divisional opponents, 1 lock and 1 rotating opponent).
WEST: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, Ole Miss & Texas A&M
EAST: 2 of Duke/N.C. State/Virgina, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt & Virginia Tech
That would eliminate the ACC, lockout the B1G ten from some great markets, arguably make the SEC "the" basketball conference as well as "the" football conference, and stretch the SEC from the Rio Grande to the Potomac.
Delany and Slive are going to carve up the ACC the way Hitler and Stalin did the Balkans.
This post was edited by MrWoodson 18 months ago
Make sure you stay an extra couple of days for that trip to Charleston, seeing that it is 2 hours away from Columbia. Don't just make a day out of it.
Yes though. Charleston is a great city and anyone that doesn't like it.....well, I don't know what Charleston they went to.
This post was edited by BetterOff 18 months ago
I don't know why you're laughing. I didn't say that as my opinion, that's just what it was rated as. And I believe it was a foreign travel agency/magazine/something that did the study.
NYC had 47 million tourists last year. The travel agency is either A- pulling a te'o or B- getting paid by Charleston to post said study.
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