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So, you're still dealing with absolutes? Am I to assume then that you are ok with the entire workforce quiting and living off of government assistance for earnings, healthcare, housing...?
See my preceding post, I realize people need help, I don't know the solution.
As for the no sympathy, I thought we have had enough discussion in the past for you not to act that way, I guess not. For how I feel on my sympathy, my wife and I adopted 3 children, 2 of them came from a home that abused them physically, the boy possibly sexually (at 18 months old, there were signs but couldn't prove it). We deal with problems to this day because of those POS parents, but we take care of our own. One of my sister in laws recently had a child with downs. She struggles as a single mom, we help in a variety of ways, we take care of our own. We have had a brother, 2 different sisters, and my in-laws live with us at various times in the past 15 years, we take care of our own...
So what if your sister in law with the child with downs didn't have y'all? What if she had had a husband who was "taking care of his own" but he died in a car accident? And let's say she also has PoS parents and no other family? What do you say to her? Tough shit?
I paid for my wife's degree from MSU. It isn't cheap. About to help 2 daughter pay for college.
So, this is going to become a what if thread. Those are always fun. /s
What are your feelings on financial aid and scholarships for college?
It's no different than what your points are. You err on the side of people on welfare are leaches. I err on the side that people on welfare are good people and need help. You won't budge, so why should I?
That's not what I asked. I asked for how you paid for your college education.
How and who determines the difference? How long is "help" provided?
Are you willing to enter into a discussion about determining these things or is this a veiled attempt to just say we should stop helping people all together?
I paid for it by working. It wasn't free.
Those weren't legitimate questions?
Where did you go/how much did you pay in tuition/where did you work?
I'm legitimately curious about all of this.
Are you legitimately asking and want to have a discussion on it, or were they rhetorical questions where you're trying to imply it's easier to just drop the system all together?
So did my mother. Paid her way all the way through medical school.
Honestly, I struggle with those questions myself. I don't have the answers, if I did I wouldn't be posting them on a college football recruiting message board. I struggle with those that make a career choice to live off others and how do we determine who needs and who doesn't need assistance.
I went to LCC. I don't remember the tuition cost, it was almost a decade ago. I worked in the construction field.
I asked them, I am open to discussion. I wasn't implying anything.
That's awesome, glad to hear.
What are your thoughts on, say, a very smart individual who comes from a poor family that has the drive and aspirations to become a rocket scientists (first thing I could think of). So this individual works hard in school and manages to get accepted into MIT. Now, even if this student works a near full-time job while in school, they'll come up pretty short on the tuition. Are you supportive of scholarships and/or financial aid to help this person get into a great school, one they've worked hard for and are deserving to get into, or do you think there is a financial barrier to higher education?
I had to ask. Much is lost in translation over the Internet.
Good for you. I'm assuming you didn't take out any student loans.
Now, you've presumably made enough money that you're going to be putting your daughters through school, right?
Will Hunting, is that you?
Honestly, never put much thought into it.
Falls into the who gets the money, how much, who decides...?
I realize it is an issue that will be hitting the fan soon, with how much college debt is out there.
...... you may now exit this conversation, thanks for trying.
Well, it's always been my opinion that the only barrier to higher education should be merit. Hard work, intelligence, drive, etc. But I'm very against the idea that there is some financial barrier to it because that turns it into something elitist. But that's just my opinion.
Son, I've read through this thread, and you're way out of your intellectual depth here.
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