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Sorry, also, if this has always been already discussed, but I thought this was interesting:
An open letter from Ted Nugent to Joe Biden:
Congratulations on your appointment to lead a presidential commission to end gun-related violence.
As a National Rifle Association board member, husband, father, grandfather, law enforcement officer and genuinely concerned American, I too want nothing more than to see evil, senseless massacres stopped. I concur with the president and caring people everywhere: It’s time to end these slaughters . . .
As you gather your team to study massacres and how to stop them, I offer to you my services and a lifetime of expertise on guns in all their implementations. While I strongly differ with President Obama on many issues, I agree with him that we must work with all we can possibly muster to end these tragedies.
As you begin to formulate your thoughts on how to proceed with your task, I hope your starting point is to provide the president with the facts regarding these slaughters and to offer him common-sense recommendations that are void of a political agenda and will actually make a meaningful difference. If the American people smell a political agenda here, that will only bog down our efforts.
In the spirit of goodwill and a deep desire to end gut-wrenching, incredibly sad and senseless rampages, I offer you the following recommendations:
I encourage you to persuade the president to lead this effort by providing a number of public service announcements. The announcements should include watching out for each other, encouraging parents to be more involved in their children’s lives regarding entertainment choices, and knowing various indicators we should watch for in people who are unstable.
Clearly, the focus on solving these mass murders must be on the mentally ill. In almost every instance of mass killing, there were ample red flags and warning alarms that either were avoided or were not acted upon by mental health professionals, family members, friends and acquaintances. While I deeply respect an individual’s privacy and civil liberties, the American people need basic awareness of what indicators to look for regarding potentially violent, psychotic people. Our collective safety begins with being collectively vigilant.
You will find in your assessment that all of the massacres have occurred in gun-free zones. What gun-free zones create is an environment where good people are unarmed and virtually defenseless against an unstable person intent on committing mass murder. Gun-free zones are modern killing fields. I implore you to recommend that Congress pass a law to ban gun-free zones immediately.
Just like your full-time, armed security detail, qualified citizens with authorized, legal concealed-carry permits should be able to carry weapons virtually everywhere to protect themselves, their loved ones and innocents.
I also implore you to strongly consider recommending that trained school officials have access to weapons to protect students. Just as airline pilots may have access to a weapon to prevent another Sept. 11 mass murder, school officials also should be trained to stop shooting sprees at our schools.
I don’t encourage you to recommend a ban on any weapon, magazine capacity or type of ammunition. That won’t accomplish anything other than prevent the 99.9 percent of responsible, law-abiding Americans from enjoying these modern weapons as we do now. We should never recommend or develop public policy that restricts the rights of the good guys based upon what evil people do or might do. If that were the case, alcohol still would be banned. As you may know, drunk drivers kill an estimated 12,000 Americans each year and hurt tens of thousands more.
I encourage you also to keep this misnamed “gun violence” in perspective. While all deaths are tragic, the vast majority of gun-related murders and violence are committed by gang members who do not use guns that look like — but do not perform like — military assault weapons. The majority of crimes that involve a firearm are committed with handguns. I concurred with you back in 2008 when you stated, “If [Mr. Obama] tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem.” I trust you still maintain those sentiments.
Again, I offer you my services and a lifetime of expertise. I look forward to hearing from you.
I know that tBB has had lengthy discussion about gun control in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook incident. Beyond the obvious constitutional and philosophical ideas surrounding this controversy, but, beyond my own personal politics, I think it is a welcomed divergence from the vitriol that has invaded political discourse in America today.
What say you tBB?
Started at the bottom, now we here.....better get used to it.
I was expecting something borderline crazy, but it was actually pretty well thought out and had some good points to it. I don't agree with eliminating gun-free zones, but I agree strongly with the emphasis on mental health.
Treating mental illness needs to be as common and as acceptable as seeing a doctor for an physical illness. The stigma surrounding mental health needs to end and those who need help should get it.
Time and change will surely (truly) show
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The simple fact is an AR-15 was not used in the latest school shooting. It was in the guys car but not used. Yet the News said the AR-15 was used but even after the police report clarified which weapons were used, a retraction by the media was never made. There is no truth to be had on these matters anymore.
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I know when I first saw the "Ted Nugent Letter to Joe Bidan" my first thought was, "Oh man, this is going to be bat-chit crazy!" But as you said, it was very well thought out and congenial.
I am an attorney and I do some criminal defense in my practice. In Nashville where I practice, they have a special court called "Mental Health Court" where the idea is to funnel mentally ill individuals who have committed crimes out of the traditional criminal system into a system where they can receive help. The idea, in a general sense, is to decriminalize mental disease. Having seen it and talked to these type of people, it is a really big issue that often goes unrecognized in our criminal justice system.
Hopefully some good will come from the Motor City Madman's letter to the VP.
"The most powerful man in the world has armed protection with him, so why shouldn't each American have similar treatment?"
You can bury crazy ideas in well crafted rhetoric, but they're still crazy.
Time for the truth on both sides, no such thing as a gun show loophole as anybody can sale their gun on the private market, I have no problem registering my guns if they want to force a broker market.
Dear Mr. Nugent,
I grew up listening to you. Your children were in the Parade in Manistee Michigan each year and that was always fun. I enjoyed your music, because it was crazy, and different then my parents world. You spoke about sex and how you enjoyed it while not being married, and how wild it was. I loved your crazy guitar. I really enjoyed your music, and I was proud of how patriotic you were. You were such a cool figure, I started doing research on you. Reading about you.
I read where you avoided Vietnam by staying up three straight days taking speeders and wetting yourself when you went down to the induction center. I read where you refused to go to Vietnam and fight. I started to become confused. I saw where you got two student deferments, and one failed physical to stay out, it confused me more. Why you ask? Because at your concerts you were always so willing to go into Iran during the hostage crisis with your roadies and "turn that pile of crap into a parking lot". Remember that? Yeah, you were really a tough ass mofo!!! Yeah, I was all about USA! USA! Especially when you came swinging out on that rope at concerts and using your guitar as a machine gun. Then I had to some how justify you being a pussy and backing out of Vietnam I found it really hard to do. As a matter of fact, I still do, I still think you're one of the biggest hypocrite lying pieces of crap fake though guys in the country. I'd like to litterally shove your guns up your ass because I know you're a coward deep down inside.
I hope you take these comments in the constructive way they're meant.
Kindly kiss my ass you coward.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by DWags 18 months ago
YOUR have been banned from reading and posting on the Michigan Wolverine board.
So basically, he is fit and qualified to the be the President of the United States these days.
Most hypocrite pussies are.
Hey, ease up on former President George W. Bush.
I believe the term is chicken hawks.
You're wrong. The coroner said the shooter used the assault rifle to kill the kids.
There was a shotgun left in the shooter's car though.
All the victims of the Connecticut elementary school shooting were killed up close by multiple rifle shots, a medical examiner said on Saturday.
I didn't mean it to just include Obama. Any President since the first Bush would fall into this category. Of course, W did have some great Air Force reserves experience to fall back on.
True. George H.W. is the only living president with bona fide "war hero" status... and unfortunately, he appears to be fading in terms of health.
Carter- served in the Navy
GHWB- highly decorated Navy pilot
GWB- reserve experience, some would call it a form of draft dodging
Can you even imagine the knowledge of the country G HW Bush has?
Navy pilot, head of the CIA, VP, President.
He knows who killed Kennedy and everything that ever happened at Area 51.
That is simply not true. I don't know where you get your news from, but you may want to start looking for other sources.
Watch the video Adam Lanza's weapons, strategy on Yahoo! News . Sandy Hook Elementary School gunman Adam Lanza had hundreds of unused rounds of ammunition on him when he killed himself. John Miller discusses what investigators know about Lanza so far.
This post was edited by CockAtLaw 18 months ago
You may run like Hayes, but you hit like $*!#
People an AR-15 is not a assault rifle its a semi-auto it just looks like a M-16 A2.Two completely different guns they just look the same on the outside.
Lol what a dumbass. Please provide a link simpleton.
Its amazing but people will believe the stupidest shit they read on the internet.
Obviously the Conneticuit Police, CNN, Yahoo, and the Washington Post are all part of the liberal conspiracy to take away our AR-15s.
Read his books. Awesome individual.
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assault is such a broad word, if I attack you with a fork then its an assault fork
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