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SIAP but Browns claim on not hiring Chip Kelly

  • BamaOnLine

    RATT

    Just saw that Joe Banner, the new Browns CEO, says that hiring Chip Kelly was too much of a "gamble". Does he expect people to believe this horse$hit?

    So they are claiming that they turned down Kelly now are they? Everyone and their mother's knew that the Browns had a hard on for this guy. Now they didn't want him because he was too much of a "gamble" eh? I would actually agree with the sentiment if the owner Haslam hadn't basically said that his top two choices for a head coach would have either been Saban or Kelly back when he first bought the team. I wonder what his excuse for Saban not taking the job is?

    Maybe it's because Saban was just too short in person? You won't get me to believe that they turned down Chip Kelly no matter what he says. Makes no sense why he would even put this out there. Not sure what he expects to gain from it. Nice first move by a president of an organization. "Hey if we interview you and you turn us down, we will talk smack about you in the papers a few weeks later." Thanks for interviewing though.

    Why these guys make the money they do baffles me sometimes. Matt Millen was making like 10 million a year as GM, actually I have no idea on that but you would think it has to be more than the HC for sure. I mean who couldn't have pulled off what he did as long as you actually watch college football?

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  • 247Sports

    NoVaNoles

    Been saying that for years

    What most never seem to understand is many front office guys in the NFL are silver spoon type guys

    People that got into the building cause of daddy or things of this nature

    And its why nothing pisses me off more than when fans say " well NFL scouts disagree with you " or " the GM for the so and so disagrees with your assessment of that Nole player "

    Well guess what, ten bucks says not only is whoever a total moron more than likely, but I bet you ten bucks I know more about a Nole than some jackass who maybe took a few days to watch highlights of said player

    fsufsu said... I've got about 10 great stories on Lane but all you need to know is he will never be a loser, that's for sure.

  • BamaOnLine

    RATT

    The only reason that Nick Saban ever left the Dolphins and took the Bama offer was because of a disagreement with his GM. He has said several times that he wanted Drew Brees and was insistent on giving him the Dolphins qb position that year that him and Culpepper were on the trading block.

    I've heard him say at fundraisers that he was pretty much open to letting the GM have a lot of input in the decision making in the draft and FA for the most part, BUT he did not like having someone tell him who his qb was going to be. He wanted, was die hard, pushing for Drew Brees but the GM wanted Culpepper. Well the rest is history. Culpepper fvcking sucked and Brees became, "Dru Breeeez". The Dolphins hired some bum and Bama has, whom I think will go down as the best college football HC of all time, at the helm.

    And yes to other Bama fans, I think that Saban will go down as better than the Bear now that he has told the NFL brass that he's going to retire a college football HC at Bama and to quit calling. So I guess thank you whomever the dipshit GM of the Dolphins was at the time.

    This post was edited by RATT 15 months ago

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  • BamaOnLine

    Weedline

    Not sure about all that, but Chip Kelly will not be successful in the NFL.

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  • BamaOnLine

    RATT

    Not sure about all what, and why don't you think he will be successful?

    I think the guy has all the potential in the world. I also think that he will be smart enough to do something that a lot of coaches in the HC position do nowadays to their own detriment. I think he will hire a real good DC and just say, that side of the ball is yours. Have fun.

    If more coaches didn't meddle with things that they aren't qualified doing just because they have the HC title, I think a lot more of them would be successful. Like I said, I agree that Kelly is a "gamble". Just don't feed me horse$hit like it wasn't him that turned you down instead of the other way around.

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  • 247Sports

    NoVaNoles

    Agreed, his offense is so damn stupid and Im tired of people acting like its so dangerous cause they can score 60 before the half against Colorado Tech

    I said it preseason, during the season and to this day

    Bama had the best offense in america and its worlds better than Oregon could ever be

    I also still think Clemson had the better offense as well, they certainly had more talent and its not that close, Clemson also beat LSU's defense.... did Oregon ? of course they didn't

    Its so funny how people act like Oregon is so special

    fsufsu said... I've got about 10 great stories on Lane but all you need to know is he will never be a loser, that's for sure.

  • BamaOnLine

    RATT

    I don't think UO is special or anything. I personally feel like Chip Kelly is just an offensive genius. He really doesn't run a gimmick offense. He just runs it extremely fast paced. I mean it's not like the guy is using a triple option offense like Paul Johnson at Ga Tech uses.

    While what he runs is different from what Belichik runs at NE, Belichik still went to Kelly for pointers and there are a lot of similarities in the style offense they run. Honestly the only difference is that Kelly has a qb that can run and Brady can't.

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  • 247Sports

    NoVaNoles

    There is nothing genius about running a fast paced offense, and imo its retarded

    Clock control is one of the best things you can do for your football team, especially in the NFL

    All a fast paced offense does is screw your defense iyam, well and give ESPN talking heads skinny boners

    fsufsu said... I've got about 10 great stories on Lane but all you need to know is he will never be a loser, that's for sure.

  • BamaOnLine

    Weedline

    Not sure if the Browns did or did not want him. No idea.

    And he's been successful in a large part at Oregon because of the hurry up. He lines up before the other team is ready and takes advantage of that. It's within the rules, but it's cheap. That will not work in the NFL. He will have to out-scheme the other coaches. No more looking to the sidelines with pictures to call plays. He will also have to have a defense. His defense was awful at Oregon...always. Who will be his QB? And how many QB's in the NFL have lasted while taking as many hits as a scrambling QB would in Chip Kelly's system? Not many. Not any. Very few college coaches have success in the NFL. I can't remember any who had a gimmick offense being successful. But maybe he will be the first.

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  • 247Sports

    NoVaNoles

    and for me the biggest question mark is how will he relate to NFL players/egos

    That might be the hardest hurdle to jump, and its even harder to predict how he will even approach this or what his style will be

    Luckily for him his players were paid at Oregon so he has some idea on how to deal with players that have money

    fsufsu said... I've got about 10 great stories on Lane but all you need to know is he will never be a loser, that's for sure.

  • BamaOnLine

    RATT

    I don't know fellas (Weedline and NoVa)

    I know that all any of us can do is guess at this point because none of us will know until he has the chance for a couple of years. I just don't think his offense is as gimmicky as others think it is. I think is has a solid philosophy based on scheme, he just runs it fast as hell.

    It will be interesting to see how he tailors his offense now that it's going to be Nick Foles running the show. At least I'm going to assume that the job is going to be his and not Vick's. I mean when you have a pocket passer and LeSean McCoy, we are going to see just how good a coach that he is real quick. I personally think he's a good enough offensive mind to tailor an offense that suits the players he has, and he's got weapons in Philly. Especially when you add in Maclin and Jackson.

    Weedline, I agree with your defense comment. I'm thinking that he is going to be one of those coaches, since he doesn't have NFL experience, to be smart enough to hire a real good DC and just leave that side of the ball alone. Of course he was dipping into the college ranks to fill that position, so who knows. I'm not even sure if he's hired a DC yet. I know he was looking at Smart and Grantham. Wouldn't be the direction I would go if this was my first experience in the pro level for sure. You would think he would hire some folks that have been up there before in that capacity that are well established as defensive coordinators. I know that Smart and Grantham have coached briefly in the pro's but I don't think either were DC's were they? I know Smart wasn't but I'm thinking Grantham might have been for a year or two.

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