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  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    Get used to it, this sort of thing will become commonplace in Europe. This is what happens when you moronically impose a foreign culture en-mass on ancient cultures.

    I mean yeah most Englishman aren't too comfortable seeing their culture diluted like this. But liberalism teaches us they should not only accept it, but embrace it. What liberalism teaches is that Western societies have no value and must embrace others, for other cultures apparently have immense value.

    It's sad really, Britain is the oldest country on Earth by the strictest definition of country. It has been remarkably stable for a millennia now and has punched well above its weight. Yet they are taught that what they have done is not enough, that they must become multicultural to have a society worthy of praise.

    Well they are quickly getting fed up with it, they aren't going to relinquish their island to these people peacefully, and the utopian idealist political class in that country is apparently going to learn this the hard way.

    It's sad.

  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    And BTW, I am not basing this off of a bunch of crazies burning a mosque. Opinion polls over there clearly show that open immigration is a sore issue with the vast majority of Brits. Also nationalistic parties are on the rise over there. As well as the rest of Europe. This isn't going to end well.

  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    Not even remotely close to accurate.

  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    One of the biggest gripes about the EU is it forcing its members' borders open. Among many other things of course. The recent UKIP election results showed that the EU and immigration were the top concern for those voters. Granted most were Torie defectors, but recently even Labour has softened it's open border stance, rhetorically at least. The picture is clear, the Brits don't want the foreigners.

    In other European countries like the Netherlands and France, the rise in Nationalism is even Moreso because of immigrants. The British don't like them in large numbers, the French just hate anyone that isn't French, and the Dutch have come to realize that their "live and let live" world view doesn't jibe too well with their new neighbors.

  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    Oh okay then. Hate to break it to you, but your belief if what's happening over there is far from reality. Britain has become extremely segregated, with major urban centers seeming more like Islamabad on the Thames. White flight is happening everywhere over there, as a result most Muslim immigrants rarely interact with anyone outside their cultural enclaves and assimilation just isn't happening.

    Sharia courts now exist in certain civil situations, Islamic schools are everywhere, Muslims tend to shop at places owned by Muslims etc.

    And not likely many were singing "God Save the Queen" at last years jubilee celebrations.

  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    From the Daily Tekegraph, it is a comment piece, but maybe you will see more clearly what I am trying to say from somone who is a better writer than I.

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    It is one of the most startling examples of disconnection between rulers and ruled in recent memory. The Labour Party flung open Britain’s doors to an unprecedented wave of mass immigration – and then professed itself bewildered by the complaints from those who found themselves unable to cope with the flow of new arrivals. Even now, anger over immigration has played a powerful part in the success of Ukip in the local elections, with its candidates falling over themselves to condemn the European Union rules on freedom of movement that will soon allow Bulgarians and Romanians to join their Eastern European neighbours in the British employment market.
    One of the most obvious criticisms of mass immigration, now widely if belatedly accepted, was that the greater the volume of newcomers, the harder it would prove to integrate them. The latest research from the think tank Demos bears out this fear. It shows a continuing pattern of “white flight” from areas where indigenous Britons find themselves surrounded by new minority communities. Indeed, according to the latest Census, the number of white Britons in London was some 600,000 fewer in 2011 than in 2001 – the equivalent of a city the size of Glasgow – even though the city’s total population increased by almost a million. In the areas such people have abandoned, minority communities have become more concentrated and more isolated, raising the risk – as David Goodhart, Demos’s director, delicately puts it – of their having “limited familiarity with majority cultural codes”. In the words of Trevor Phillips, the former chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, this is “not good news for the cause of integration”.
    It is important not to exaggerate the scale of the problem: one encouraging phenomenon is the way that members of ethnic minorities have been absorbed into communities, away from the major cities, that were previously overwhelmingly white (what Mr Phillips calls “the Ambridge effect”). But one has only to look at the ghettos of Paris to see what happens when immigrants are encouraged to build lives on the edge of the economy and society, and permitted to cluster in islands of deprivation without being absorbed into the mainstream.
    Britain has an enviable track record in assimilating immigrants, yet the recent surge has put pressure not just on public services, but in some places on the fabric of society. That so many Britons should be on the move suggests that politicians have still not come to terms with the depths of the public’s disquiet, or done enough to reassure them that things will be different in future.

  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    The immigrant community is the only growing community in Britain. It's numbers plain and simple. If immigrants are arriving AND reproducing at a faster rate than the natives, AND the native population is not only not keeping up, but in fact shrinking then obviously there will eventually be more of the former than the latter.

    Projections are White native Britons will not have a majority in Britain by the end of this century. They are in fact being overrun.

  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    Also from the Telegragh. This is just the latest study saying basically the sane thing as others.

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    A large influx of immigrants has given the UK the fastest-rising percentage of ethnic minority and foreign-born residents of any Western nation, David Coleman’s report concluded.
    The country is likely to overtake America as the Western world’s greatest ethnic and cultural melting pot if current migration trends continue, he suggested.
    By 2040, the number of foreign-born and non-white residents will double, meaning they will account for a third of the population, he predicted. By 2066 they will outnumber white Britons.
    Prof Coleman, a professor of demography, drew his findings from research on international population forecasts carried out for the Migration Observatory.
    He said: “On current trends European populations will become more ethnically diverse, with the possibility that today’s majority ethnic groups will no longer comprise a numerical majority.”
    In the study, “minorities” are defined as being non-white or people who class themselves in the census as Irish or another nationality.
    Alongside migration, falling birth rates among white Britons were also said to account for Britain’s shifting demographic composition.
    The report said that a quarter of babies in Britain had foreign-born mothers. The calculations of future demographic trends are based on the current net rates of immigration.
    Andrew Green, from campaign group MigrationWatch, said the findings of the study were “important”. He said: “It brings out the consequences if the mass immigration triggered by Labour is not rapidly brought under control.”
    Under European “freedom of movement” rules, 29 million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain from next year.
    David Cameron, the Prime Minister, has insisted the number of migrants coming to the UK from these countries in 2014 will not be “anything like” the influx of Poles seen nearly a decade ago.

  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    Okay, fair point. But the fact remains the British are losing Britain to outsiders.

  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    They will become British as in citizens yes, but one can't become British anymore than you or I can become Chinese. It is a very American POV that geography and citizenship makes one who they are. We are very different in that being an American has absolutely nothing to do with ethnicity.

  • Know what I think is funny? We call our grandfathers and their generation the Greatest Generation. We admire all they did, the hard work and sacrifice that made this country what it is today. Yet at every turn people attack their every belief and moral value and are turning this cou try upside down. So is it all bs? I guess they weren't the Greatest Generation after all, just a bunch of war mongering bigots. I mean they went to church, lived simple lives, didn't know what gay rights even meant. But I'm sure y'all are right. This country will be much better off without all their stupid values.

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  • Immigration can be either good or bad. Some groups are simply not compatible with each other and given today's climate and unrest in the world it's a disastrous idea to let Muslims into certain areas of the world. The real heart of the matter is that multiculturism is being forced upon Europe with horrible consequences.

    America is a land of immigrants true, but mostly white anglo Saxons until recently. Those groups even clashed in the beginning but the lines dividing them blurred with inter marriage. When religion is the dividing line those differences never seem to fade. Jewish families almost always marry into other Jewish families. Their religion keeps them divided. The same goes for other groups. In Iraq they have even divided among factions of the same religion and are at constant war. India and Pakistan divided over religion. When religion is the dividing factor that separates a people, disaster is sure to follow. And neither side will back down because their God is right. Islam is especially troubling because it dictates a persons entire life and any non believer is seen as less than human.

    Thats why this Muslim invasion of Europe is bound to end in bloodshed. It might work at some other point in history when theres not an all out war ongoing between Anglos and Muslims, but for now it's screwed. The question to ask is who is pushing for this multicultural world in Europe? And why? Sweden is in all out riot mode. Nationalistic groups are springing up everywhere. Trouble is inevitable, especially when economy's are failing and immigrants are seen as job stealers, like in Greece. This story does not have a happy ending. You think it's bad now, wait until Israel and Iran go at it. Or India and Pakistan. The West will have to choose sides against Muslims.

    Check out this link, mainly the first video that has an interview with a women describing her views on the matter. There's other stuff about Sweden on that page. I haven't watched it all. This was the only place I could find of the video I mentioned. This video stunned me because it's an American basically stating that her and her allies are going to change Europe wether they like it or not. What in the heck is an American woman doing in Sweden forcing multiculturalism upon Europe?

    And if you've never seen the Blanda Upp video paid for by the Swedish government then You're missing out on some hilarious stuff. It's a multicultural promotion that's....quite disturbing.

    Ongoing Muslim and Black Riots in Husby Area

    http://www.bestgore.com/brain-fart/ongoing-muslim-and-black-riots-in-husby-area-of-stockholm-sweden/

    http://www.bestgore.com/brain-fart/ongoing-muslim-and-black-riots-in-husby-area-of-stockholm-sweden/

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  • And what's wrong with Japan? Their philosophy has produced a kick ass country. Forget you man....Nintendo made my childhood frickin awesome. The only thing wrong with Japan is that they blur out private parts in their porn.

    And I don't get why you think change is always a good thing? Just because you add something doesn't always mean the sum of the two is greater. Sharks haven't changed in 100 million years. Still here. If you gave sharks legs do you think that would be good? Maybe you think they would climb out of the oceans and rule the land as well. Landshark ftw. One day you hear a knock at the door and you ask whos there, "pizza guy" , you go answer the door and them Nom Nom Nom youre dead....landshark got ya. But oh ya sharks cant breathe out of water, legs bad idea. Change bad because now they can't swim worth a crap either with legs causing drag.

    Oh wait...man I got you. I guess climate change is a good thing then. Everyone go buy SUVs, its all cool...it's change.

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  • Some people don't actually believe that our grandparents generation was all that great. These are the same people that will argue that this generation is not lazy and entitled. You can't explain anything to these people because they actually think the drive, work ethic, etc is still there.

    Obviously it is in some cases, but overall, they do not want to believe that our country is slowly turning into a bunch of entitled bums that think everything should be given to them. That is why they don't see the problem with our government convincing everyone that they are being treated unfairly and that they deserve compensation for this.

  • BamaOnLine

    sf2k4

    Every generation has it's high-lofted pros and its bottom-scraping cons. The fact is we ALWAYS talk about the "good old days" as human beings; Golden Age Syndrome is something most everyone "suffers" from. But the fact is, everything in the past has an inflated sense of quality here and now. Our grandparents' generation was a great one, anyone with any knowledge of history can tell you that, but to insinuate that my generation is the sloth residing limp upon the shoulders of giants is a ridiculous assertion and just the disgruntled "get off my lawn!" talk of people deeply imbedded in GAS thinking. Personally, I care much more about making the world around me NOW a better place, instead of complaining about how it USED to be, and that goes for both "sides" of why some of you think this country sucks now.

    This post was edited by sf2k4 11 months ago

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  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    Japan's demographic problem isn't going to last forever.

  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    I swear every post you make is full of platitudes and cliches.

  • BamaOnLine

    sf2k4

    And every post talking about the "good ol' days" isn't rife with them?

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  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    "I care about making the world around me now a better place"...lol. Sounds like you are running for office.

    And then there are all of your everyone needs to get along post...blah blah blah.

  • Don't tell him or he will quit doing it. Well, probably not. I find the "lets hold hands and sing a song" posts quite amusing. Afterall, we all know that we can change the world one person at a time.

  • BamaOnLine

    sf2k4

    So what's y'all's solution to everything? Just say, "Life sucks, deal with it," and be an asshole to everyone? What on earth has made y'all so cynical? It's depressing, really.

    This post was edited by sf2k4 11 months ago

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  • Surely the SNL skit gave it away.

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  • I've read a story about their population woes of late. Apparently Japanese parents work so hard and spoil their kids that the average age of when a female gets married is now around 30, when it used to be around 21. They spoil their kids because they know one day those same kids will be taking care of them. Some never get married and refuse to have kids or more than one. It's made it very hard for young males to find a wife when in their early 20s. I mean how else do you explain all the crazy sex shows they put on prime time tv there.

    And when they do finally get married they are older and deep into a career and less likely to get pregnant, or have more than one kid. Older women are more likely to plan a pregnancy and be responsible while younger couples just go at with little regard. I mean after all they are now responsible for their retired parents, financially and physically. It's a situation that leads to a stagnant population growth. It's hard to manage a career, aging parents, and toddlers.

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  • 247Sports

    TroyTide

    You always see things the way they would be in a an ideal world, which is pointless because we don't live in an ideal world.

    Take the thread about the two party system... you chimed in with some non-sense about how they need to learn to work together. Well no kidding, but that isn't going to happen, so instead of wasting everyone's time with such noise, why not join the rest of us in talking about how to create a system that makes it harder for partisanship to exist to the extent it does?

    Instead of well people should do this and this blah blah blah...