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Shane Morris' HS stats suck, every year. He sucked at all of the practices and in the game. They are ranking him on potential right now. He needs alot, and I meant alot of work if he's going to play in the B10
I've only had the opportunity to see highlight tapes and what little is available on TV. Morris was great (and pretty consistent) at the 7-7 Gridiron Kings tourney the last couple years. I've heard various stories of how he did at the Elite 11, The Opening, etc. but let's be honest, no camp or all-star game is set up for QB success.
In the all-star game you come in cold, rotate with two other QBs, are trying to develop timing with WR you don't know, have an OL that is at a severe disadvantage, etc. Camp circuits have an entirely different set of problems.
What I know is that he is ranked highly by all of the recruiting agencies. Their job is to evaluate and rank college football prospects. They are paid for that. I like to think they take pride in their work, rankings, etc. and want to put out the best product possible. They have seen more prospects than I have and have seen each prospect at much greater lengths. They have more data to base their rankings on. That is why I trust them and why, in general, I stay out of arguments about who is over/under rated.
I have expertise in a completely different field and am paid for my opinions/advice in said field. I believe people trust my advice because of the reputation I have. It's the same thing here. When it comes to recruiting, I am paying the experts who have a reputation in the field for their opinions.
I don't think anyone said that Morris isn't any good. The OP was just asking opinions on Morris because he looked bad last night and has never really done much on the field. Woodson is the one who turned it into a typical OSU/UM thread then people responded how they always do. For the record, UM fans do the same thing when it comes to any OSU OL over the last 2 years, Schutt, Pittman etc. It's not like this a one sided thing and probably half the threads on this board are similar arguments from fans of other teams.
Slow down there buddy, you don't have Green yet
Embarrassing how some of my fellow M fans act when a buckeye asks a legit question.
IMO, he is overrated, but not by much. I don't care about his ranking, or anyone else's for that matter. I feel that he will develop into a good/great college qb and the leader of our team. I have immense faith in our oline recruiting recently, to the point where they will make any skilled players we have, significantly better. Whether its plowing holes for deveon Smith (and hopefully Derrick green) or giving Shane all day in the pocket.
What exactly are you trying to say?
+1 very good post and I think the kind of conversation the OP was looking for, respectful and honest. I agree Morris has a lot of things anyone looking for a pocket passer would like. I just havent really seen him put it together on the field yet, but I admit I havent seen a ton of him. When I think of 5 star I think of can't miss type players. I'm not sure he is quite on that level, but if I were betting I would put the money on him being a good to very good player in college.
Sry dude but Ohio st is 3 in rivals team rankings and Michigan is now 6.....
Thx. He's had ups and Downs at camps, missed a lot this year with mono, not to mention learning a new offense, and they were a run 1st team up till this year (wishbone I believe). Apparently his line was pretty bad too. Has a cannon for an arm and is a natural leader. If u followed uofm recruiting at all, you know that he was undoubtedly our best recruiter for his class and a big part of his class being a tight family already
Jesus I'm a Spartan and I can say this kid is very good. He was playing with rat crap awful receivers against some great hs teams. I've been able to coach some summer camps and that kid has it.
As far as work every kid needs work, but you're just whistling past the grave yard if you dint think this kid can toss the pill. Start with the truth and you become more credible on message boards. I'm hoping narduzzi gets a package together to physically kick his ass because he will hurt you in the air.
I've seen Morris play 3 times in HS, and I've been to a couple Max Ex workouts. He's got a great arm, shows outstanding footwork, and his throwing motion has never been an issue, which is why I wish I could've seen more of the UA practices.
When he has time to throw his accuracy has been solid. If you watched him in HS you would see that he could never set his feet due to the OL, and it was more of the same in the UA game. The DL was abusing the OL.
You mean the D that held you scoreless in the second half? Good luck after losing your only real weapon, and a once in a decade talent, on offense.
From what I've seen the past few months UM has been the team taking plan B and C recruits.
Said it before and I'll say it again you're gay.
Yes, but we did get a ton of our plan As out of the way early.
Hahhahahahahahahhahahahahahaha. What "very good rb, wr and te's" are you talking about?
If anyone should be afraid it's Michigan.... Marshall, Elliott, Smith, Miller, Baugh. Let's not forget about Washington and Spence, Schutt, Bosa, Burrows, Apple, Conley, Price, Mitchell and Johnson are all going to be building one of the best Ds in the nation to stop your lack of player makers and run over your Oline
Great Qbs make your team 100x better... Look at Payton... The Colts went 2-14 or whatever without him....
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Michigan had a better defense than OSU this year with half the talent. Imagine when Michigan actually has good players across the board on its defense.
Imagine if we actually had a middle LB who was an LB? or a secondary that could actually defend.....
You act like just because you had a decent year (and still lost to basically every ranked team you played) you have something to brag about....but you dont.... you went 8-5, lost to Ohio St, ND and your only "high point" was you beat your instate rival...
Both defenses had glaring holes, but there were a few individuals on OSU's defense that made the talent disparity pretty obvious imo.
So thats going to be your argument? Its ok to lose because the talent difference? Well I feel bad for you then..... the talent gap (especially on D is just going to get bigger)
by then we will be an SEC defense (i just threw up in my mouth)
With all the words you're putting in my mouth you could have this conversation all by yourself.
Its basically what you said.... But ok, what did you really mean, so I dont put words in your mouth.
I said I was okay with losing? I acted like Michigan had a decent year? A decent defense doesn't equal a decent year, especially when your offense was as bad as Michigan's ended up being this year.
My point was that Michigan had a defense that overachieved in comparison to the talent out there on the field (in terms of NFL talent). With the improvement for Michigan in recruiting they'll soon have better talent on defense hit the field, which seems like it would lead to a better defense.
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