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Weed isn't going to make anyone a 'junkie' as it isn't physically addictive.
The actual problematic drugs clear out of your system in a matter of days.
No, I am not advocating welfare users should be allowed to smoke weed either, but I can tell you are extremely unfamiliar with the subject at hand.
I honestly don't have an issue with weed, but it can be cleared out of someone's system within a day or 2.
Also, most hard drugs are also out of your system fairly quickly.
I'll admit my opinions on drug related issues are against the norm. I've thought for years it should be a public health issue, not a criminal one, at least when usage/possession is involved. Intent to sell/selling is a different argument.
Weed, should be legal. It's that simple.
Hard drugs... Not so much and it has nothing to do with health IMO, it has to do with responsibility for yourself. I'd rather have a junkie serve jail time and get sober than go to rehab, get sober and know it's ok because he won't get in trouble for it.
Glad to see the primary focus is how can we best accommodate those sucking the system dry and contributing nothing, without offending or inconveniencing them.
That's also under the assumption that drug usage actually stops while in jail. And where do we draw the line as far as "soft drugs" (ones I would consider a public health issue) vs. "hard drugs?" Anything not marijuana?
Hm. You seem to be overlooking the fact that the fraud in the mortgage backed debacle was in large part committed by the borrowers, not BofA.
Though about 15000 people associated w BA should still be straight executed for greed and stupidity
I'm not sure who you're referring to by "borrowers." In the cases above, although BoA (the overall entity) is acting primarily as the negotiator, the judgments are against affiliated wings of BoA (i.e. Countrywide).
The woman I am talkimg about has been "disabled" her entire life...but somehow nothing is wrong with her. There is a ton of abuse going on with disability and WIC.
Sure, its not the reason the country is slumping. But it is a great example of people abusing the system and why our government cant do anything right.
Steve Spurrier is a God, and Mark Richt worships him
So, tell me - you're saying this one person is an example of why the government can't do anything right? This one, single anecdote?
What percentage of welfare recipients are receiving benefits fraudulently?
I know of several who are abusing it...if I know of several in my small world, there is plenty more. Do you honestly think that there is not a large percentage getting those either A. Fraudulently or.B. abusing their.privilege (selling.food,formula,etc). I am sure you will ask me for my proof and I really don't care to reswsech numbers on the net to prove anything to you. Math tells you if.I know as many as I do, there is a lot.more
There's so much wrong with your logic that I don't even know where to begin.
Here's my point - the last major in-depth research and investigation on welfare fraud only discovered 1.9% fraud. Most researchers estimate that between 2-3% of welfare funds dispensed involve fraud. Thus, you're using a program that works perfectly 97-98% of the time as an example of why the government can't do anything right. Doesn't that sound a bit silly?
Now, if you can show me any statistic whatsoever to support your view that a large percentage of welfare recipients are engaged in fraud or other abuse, please do. I'd love to see it.
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For you or BLF or anyone else really, honest question
What do you make of this? Why the huge increase?
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Roman numerals, your stance on making the physically capable welfare recipients work community service for their checks?
Simply put - the economy.
Look at it starting from Clinton's welfare reform. Welfare reform didn't reduce the number of poor people, it just reduced the number eligible for welfare. Unsurprisingly, people who suddenly found themselves kicked off welfare sought out alternate means of survival - and apparently, for many, that meant applying for SSDI benefits. The same can be seen in the charts comparing unemployment rates to applications for SSDI benefits.
It boils down to this - if you deny a source of income to people barely surviving as it is, they'll search for another in order to survive.
(Of course, there's also the additional issue of the entire baby boomer generation aging and simply becoming disabled, but I'm assuming you didn't want the "people are getting old" reason.)
Establish public works programs akin to the New Deal. What you're proposing is essentially creating jobs at government expense, so why not just create jobs programs? Lord knows the infrastructure of the US needs considerable improvement.
Well creating a job program is fine and dandy, but if someone doesn't want to work that isn't going to change it. What I'm proposing is to weed out society leeches, make them go pick up trash on the side of the freeway for an allotted amount of time monthly, etc, to acquire their welfare check.
expecting a welfare recipient to make prudent choices is expecting a welfare recipient to be prudent
now who's the dummy. dummy?
besides, I'm sure the real problem is that the government isn't nearly big enough
Who are you talking to?
I'm not sure there's such a thing. I heard the whole Chesapeake was wiped out.
Damn... I'm going to have Surf and Turf tonight after reading all of this.
I personally don't give a ish what people on welfare spend the money on, I especially don't concern myself with what kind of food they eat.
I'm open to making the requirements for being on welfare tougher, but once they are on it... why does anyone care if they buy 70000 packets of Ramen Noodles, or 5 steaks?
The truth is between what you believe and what the OP believes, and we all know it. It's just like politics...you have to toe your line and give no quarter, or the other guy wins in the tug of war.
I really don't care what kind of food they buy with their welfare money...for themselves. What that means for their children for the rest of the month is a bit more disturbing. Children, disabled people, and the elderly really can't control their situation, and therefore the aid for them doesn't bother me. I'm not about to even attempt to say that welfare fraud costs more than foreign wars and bank fraud, because I'd be lying. I think where the huge fights over this come into play is when one side wants to keep blaming something irrelevant to argument X. So people on the other side of the aisle cling to their irrelevant argument so that there is an impenetrable wall between the two parties.
Personally, it all pisses me off. Welfare isn't the root of the problems we face, it is simply an every day, right in your face at the supermarket, symptom. People who make really nice household incomes and save as best they can plan their 10th anniversary trip, and their HVAC goes out and the money goes to that instead. Then they go to Wal Mart to buy some hot dogs instead of crab and they see assistance money buying crab instead of hot dogs. The truth is, they still have it better than the welfare guy buying the crabs, but it doesn't seem like it at the moment. And they start thinking about how hard they work and save and try...and pay their share, and they get pissed off.
I understand the bank exec outrage, and I feel it too. They hit the gov't harder, but there is often some recourse on them. On the other hand, you can't squeeze blood from a rock. In our case, you can't even stop watering the rock.
You'll would be amazed at how much people get in food stamps/wic. Girl at my work receives wic, so she gets cheese/milk/rice/peanut butter/cereal through that. She then has $600 a month in food stamps in addition to that. Then at the end of the year she receives the Earned Income Tax Credit, gets 8-10K. She earns like 22k and her boyfriend earns 30K, but of course they don't count boyfriends(whom she's been with 5 years and has 2 kids with). So essentially she gets 1k a month in food assistance, combined they get 13k in "tax refunds". Add that all up, and they live the equivalent lifestyle of a married set of teachers(at least young teachers). Do you know how hard it is to spend 1K a month at the grocery? Of course they get crab.
Shit... My wife, myself and our child... We spend 400-500 a month on food, with lots of expensive meat and living overseas... Wtf does she do with 1000!
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