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Coca cola is 100+ years old and smoking cigarettes is thousands of years old.
Rather transcendent IMO
Please never come over to the futurist/technology thread.
Please don't act like consumer staples and technological advances have remotely comparable life cycles
100 years is a drop of nothing in the span of humanity
Morality or sin taxes are a horrible idea too. They are just another way the gov't tries to control you behaviour.
Everything should be taxed the same (bread to yachts) and all loopholes and tax write-offs eliminated.
You don't really get human nature do you???
I have known all of my life that smoking is bad for you and the same for cocaine...
I have also known hundreds of smokers my age or less and many people who snorted away their money. Could Coke sales be affected by "sin taxes" and limits... possibly, but people will continue to drink it. Same goes for cigs and drugs. People will choose the immediate satisfaction over long-term consequences at an alarmingly high rate.
concur... same reasons I support the legalization of drugs, what adults choose to do to themselves is up to them.
When the cost to taxpayers when a person eats BREAD their entire life instead of smoking cigarettes can easily exceed $100,000 you might have a point.
You have a constitutional right to smoke cigarettes, maybe, but people who fight against tobacco taxes aren't so fucking yappity about their 'individual rights' and 'government control' when they show up in the emergency room 30 years later, coughing up blood, billing it to Medicare. It's not about 'morality' or 'sin.' When a man falls out of the workforce because he has a heart attack at age 45, it's bad for the entire economy and responsible citizens have to pick up the slack.
It may be your right to put terrible things in your body, but you should have to pay a tax to buy the horrible shit. Not because fat people are icky but because when you end up on disability and can't work because you lost a foot to diabetes, or you spend the last 20 years of your life in and out of the hospital, or orphan your children, your personal choice became society's problem.
Bloomberg's law is stupid because it should have been a tax, not a ban.
Smoking rates in the United States have dropped by half from 1965 to 2006 falling from 42% to 20.8% of adults.
P.S. In 2011, 19.0% of adults were smokers.
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How much of a tax are you talking here? A typical 5 or 10 cent tax probably wouldn't would effect sales at all.
This probably has a lot more to do with advertising than taxes
Are you familiar with agricultural subsidies (not being a smart ads)?
They're completely outdated. I'll try and find the numbers I was looking at the other day that compared median farming income to national household average.
Communism. This country is over.
They are and a majority doesn't even get to the farmer.
The price has gone up considerably in the last number of years and people still buy it. Also a drink in a restaurant costs at least 2.50 now and people still buy them.
How can you subsidize the purchase and not the production?
It affects quantity demanded, not demand.
Everyone in this thread knows that people still smoke cigarettes. Everyone in this thread also knows that way fewer people smoke than they used to. So your observation that a popular good has increased in price and shockingly some people still purchase it doesn't really add anything to the discussion. Do people still buy as many drinks in restaurants as they used to? Do you have any idea? Have you taken an economics class at any point in your life? What is your point?
So many questions . Yes far less people smoke cigs, but is it because of price? Could it be because everyone knows how bad they are for you NOW compared to when a lot of people smoked? Far less kids smoke now because its no longer "cool". I do believe raising the price of soda would cut down on soda drinkage, but I think it would have to be a fairly decent raise in price is all. Now calm down.
and DRUG use has increased or decreased? Just switched poisons IYAM.
If the lawmakers are so worried about health then make ALL of it illeagal and let the government take the financial hit from the loss of tax money on it, because hey if we only save ONE life then....its worth it.
i wish she would.
Everyone needs to quit eating red meat as well. Bad for you
With all the sh!t they put in those cows these days, it is.
Love me a good steak, but still...
Same reason local govts will/has banned smoking inside everywhere except casinos.
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