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Got to say I strongly disagree with that practice.
BTW I'm absolutely not saying that there is any bias for or against Auburn or Bama. I just think that thinking is a bad way to evaluate and completely disagree with it and think it should be re evaluated.
Coaching is a big part of how a prospect develops and by going to a certain school with a certain coach a prospects chances of getting to the NFL are definitely greater.
"Quite frankly, if we didn't have faith your staff could coach him up and he was a great fit for scheme, it would be a joke if Johnson were in there. You should let this kid develop and stop trying to make him into something he's not before he's ready." JC Shurburtt
When Mr Perfect asked:
"So where a player commits to can impact his ranking/rating somewhat?
I did not know this."
JC responded with:
"Quarterback as it relates to scheme? Absolutely"
When I asked:
"So if JJ was committed to Bama he would be ranked lower?"
JC responded with:
So since right now Bama produces talent and puts a ton of players in the NFL they should be ranked differently. Basically saying if someone is committed to PSU at DL they should be ranked higher if they switch to Bama.
Our DL coach is arguably the best in the country so that would be annoying.
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Well if this is the case why isn't cord sandberg rated higher than a 3 star. Dan mullen has had several qbs get drafted. Alex smith was the 1st pick of the draft then tebow won the heisman and then omar Jacobs. Tyler Russell will also be drafted
Bad example because PSU has a better DL coach, but I get what you are saying. I think it depends on the position and QB is definitely one where it matters, but yes if a kid is rated a 95 before committing and then signs with Bama he should be evaluated with the thinking that most likely the best will be gotten out of him, because Bama has a good track record of doing so, whereas if he committed to say UConn then has to be evaluated with the thinking that UConn hasn't put many big time players into the league and he could not live up to potential.
Ok well you get the point...
If that is the case then LSUs Line Class would be tops in the nation because Brick Haley is the coach. That would not make sense to me and I am a LSU fan.
You would lose that argument pretty easily.
Go look at the thread on sending DL to the NFL.
PSU for QBs is a great example of why it should matter where a prospect commits to.
PSU signed Bolden and Paul Jones a few years ago, both were rated high and with terrible QB coaching amounted to nothing. Now with O'Brien, Matt McGloin became the best passing QB in the Big 10.
So your saying that you would be fine with the analyst judging hires and coaches?
Its not like there isn't a way to evaluate which coaches are getting kids to the next level. I'll use PSU as an example again since I know them best. Our DL and LB coach have gotten tons of kids to the NFL and many of those kids have excelled in the NFL. I think that is proof that they know what they are doing and get the best out of talent, therefore that should be considered when rating a prospect based on NFL potential which is what the analysts are doing.
Sorry it hurts your feelings but based on your recent track record how could it be any different?
JC is saying that if JJ were to flip today to Bama he would be ranked lower than his current position... You agree with that?
I think according to past history he would be ranked number one if he flipped to Bama. The Bama bump everyone speaks of.
Other than message board bragging rights, I agree.
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
I think QB's are such a very different position with so many variables.
One better look at everything with that position IMO.
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Well, we'll be using a different system, correct? So if a QB is a better fit for a scheme, shouldn't he be ranked higher for said scheme?
So first why do you guys put out this final rankings when you don't have all of the info yet. QBs still have a chance to flip shouldn't you guy wait until you know where they are going to evaluate them considering it could change them so much? You are basically judging staffs and you you think they develop QBs. Do you do the same for smallish type backs compared to big backs? If a small speedster is deciding between Bama and Auburn are you going to make sure that since Auburn uses those type of spread back he is going to be ranked higher when committed to us? This can keep going on and on and is a very bad practice IMO.
Same thing could be said for defense. Lawson probably isn't suited great for a 3-4 compared to a 4-3. Does that mean his stock should go down if he flips to UGA or to you? I could go on and on with spread RBs and differences in defensive schemes.
copied from another thread on this board proving my point..............
Lol, you are too easy joker.
You guys are ALWAYS whining about where your recruits are rated but your record is full of 7 and 5 seasons and most recently 3-9 so it seems they have been overrated not underrated. I know you want to feel good about something but all of you guys (aub fans) sound like a bunch of wusses on here whining everyday about where a recruit is ranked, or if he fell or whatever. Does it really matter or is your recruiting class ranking the only hopeful thing you have?
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