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Hate and destruction. You can't even listen to the message right. I didn't read past that. You back Osteen. All I need to know.
All he said is that God will consume that which isn't redeemed in Christ. Listen to the message again without Osteen's God is a warm blanket ideals in your mind. You totally misheard the message as he explicitly speaks against what you are saying.
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I am still a sinner. Yes. This has been established. Solely by grace we are saved. No boasting in that.
See, it isn't "belong or die" with muslims. It is "convert (and you're still only sort of in the club) or we will kill you". Big difference.
Christianity does not wage crusades any longer. That was a long time ago, in a VERY different world bereft of bleeding heart liberals like yourself. It was also the Catholic church which whom I do not support or agree with. War was a way of life then and would have been with or without Christianity. It is easy to twist those things around when you only look at a small portion of the picture. Also, the crusades were sparked by muslim aggression, conquering, murdering and slaughtering Christians and Jews in the Holy Land so they could proceed to desecrate it with their presence. It wasn't just random violence by Christians as you seem to believe.
Not sure why you compare Mormonism here. They don't send suicide bombers into crowded areas to murder innocent men, women and children because it is a holy act in their religion like muslims do.
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Save it for the schlemps, man.
You called a whole group of people warlike because they have different beliefs than you. That's all it boils down to.
Now I feel bad. Continue with your thread.
Not guilty y'all got to feel me
I said history demonstrates that they are warlike (it does), just like Scripture prophesied. If you have any proof to the contrary then disclose it.
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I'm still curious which version of the Bible I should read. King James? New American?
Sparty is our mascot, we are Spartans.
If you have but one Bible to read then it should be NASB In my research. I also read New King James and ESV. NIV and the message are commentaries and reading aids but should not be read alone.
History demonstrates the United States is warlike as well. Did your fairy tales prophesise that.
Your "proof" is based on your viewpoint. Nothing more.
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DELETE --- Just not worth it
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The organization known as the Church of Christ has been warlike, yes. Undeniable. It is not the will of God though. And those who do the will of God will please God. Apart from that is sin. Which magnifies our need of Christ. At the end bitterness and merit will matter for not.
If you believe when you die it is as it was before birth and you simply cease to exist then all we can say is that Christ is preeminent and we hope you come to the love and peace of Him who can save. We didn't deserve it so the fact that you don't is not bad news.
I don't know. Seems like a lot of updating has been done.
I know where you are trying to take this. The Bible claims to be inerrant though. The Word of God manifested in Christ and the Bible. To believe the Word is flawed because it has been under the influence and in the presence of man is to say Christ assuredly sinned because he was also in the presence of men for so long. If Christ sinned, there's no one who can save. So for those who believe the Bible is great, but flawed, they have not accounted for the ramifications of their logical meandering. Their Christ cannot save.
As for how can different translations be inerrant if they disagree? Really they don't. There is simply lost logos revelation in erred wording. But that's why the Spirit teaches us. Rhema is Spirit enabled revelation and makes what you are reading the Word if you have the Spirit.
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There are tons of instances in the bible where "god" says to go to war with various other groups of people. But i'm guessing thats one of the parts of the bible that you ignore...3
If the Bible is the word of god, how can you ignore any part of it. It truly boggles my mind how you can quote one passage of the bible as if it were the most absolute of truths but on the other hand totally dismiss other parts.
In the Old testament God was establishing a physical Kingdom, at the Cross the new covenant described in Jeremiah 31 was enacted in which a spiritual kingdom was created so that Christ could be the firstborn of many siblings.
You don't believe. So instead of trying to pick the Bible apart as millions have dedicated anywhere from hours to their whole lives to with no success you should just mock us and move on or repent and believe. Those are our two options as people.
You've sinned already though so don't try Islam, there is no savior.....just fear and doubt.
Ohhhh I see now!!!
You have heard, you can never say you didn't hear.
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes.
Why would you deem Joel Osteen a (gulp) false prophet???
He is the embodiment of the popularized Gospel. He preaches that God wants you to be happy and succeed socially in this life. He preaches that Christ is the only way but that he's not so sure much of the time. He sermons are used nationally in seminaries for breakdowns as to what has gone wrong in the church. He appeases the flesh which preachers are commanded to share the Gospel of Christ which wars against the flesh. Many just like his message because it seems like the Christ they'd like to love. A chill guy who came to let people know it's gonna be ok, "Im waiting for you" kinda message.
His preaching is inherently unscriptural which is the very definition of false prophet. Shoeless thinks I can't say that because he preaches Jesus as God who died and resurrected. But that is only seen as not obviously true to unbelieving humans. The Bible says those are obvious facts to all those in Heaven, on earth and under the earth. Those statements aren't alone salvific.
The Bible claims to be inerrant? It's just that it has been rewritten any number if times and not always with the best of intentions.
I don't know if you do know where I am taking it, because I don't. Just having a conversation.
Yeah the Bible says it's inerrant.
Here is a good article.
It's against my programming to impersonate a deity.
Who's the more foolish: the fool, or the fool who follows him?
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