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according to UM coach
Maybe you can't read. He said it was overrated compared to other things, like the ability to get in and out of breaks, and you know.... actually catch the ball.
He didn't say it wasn't important.
Ted Ginn , Darius Heyward-Bey, Troy Williamson..... these guys should be in the HOF right?
It is, compared to a wr with, just avg speed, that can run the perfect route tree.
Of course, and in that sense I totally agree
My favorite WR's are the big guys with okay speed, but guys that can do it all including block downfield
A good example is somebody like Boldin, he only ran like a 4.7 at the combine and Im taking him over a Marvin Bracy all day everyday
fsufsu said... I've got about 10 great stories on Lane but all you need to know is he will never be a loser, that's for sure.
You want both. You need a WR that can stretch the field.
In regards to an entire unit, yes.
But, speed isn't the only thing that creates separation.
I'd take a guy that runs perfect routes, has good body control and hands, and runs a 4.6, over a 9 route 4.3 receiver any day.
No shit, but you can't always get both
If I had to choose between somebody with 4.2 speed or a guy that has Jerry Rice intangibles at 4.6 speed
Im taking the football player every single time
Perfect post. W/o a doubt.
Some of the best SoCal teams Pete Carroll had were filled with big WRs who had questionable speed for the NFL. Whether it was speed or work ethic is debatable, but they were dominant in college.
I'm glad u pointed this out.
Because he had Fitz, another 4.6 guy, on the opposite side of him in Arizona.
He has Smith now, a super fast guy, on the outside.
in both scenarios , Boldin is still super productive.
This troll thread is going as well as the OP had hoped I'm betting.
Huge difference. I've personally seen Rainey and Demps ran down from behind.
I sent you a money PM, you read that bish or what ?
Nah, don't have a (1) in my inbox. Hold up, lemme check.
It says it was sent on my end
If speed was the only important thing for WRs Al Davis would've won multiple Super Bowls.
Shockingly enough, it's better to be a complete football player with a bit less speed than to have elite speed and less overall skills.
OP created a troll thread, but the whole board minus OSU fans agree with coach Heck.
I'd like to share this post from our board:
From Frank C:
To add to the anti-speed argument.Did you all know that current Baltimore Ravens WR Anquan Boldin ran a 4.71 at the 2003 NFL Combine?And given that he's in his early 30s, he probably runs/plays a step slower. But he had no problem owning San Francisco's speedy corners such as Carlos Rogers for instance. That's the same 6' tall Rogers who ran a 4.44 at the 2005 NFL Combine.The list of great (which is to say accomplished) NFL WRs who run a sub-4.5 is actually small which suggests that speed is not the most important factor for a WR.The GOAT (aka Jerry Rice) ran a 4.7 in the 40 yard dash but he no problem taking on sub-4.3 beat Neon Deion.Don't get me wrong. Speed/quickness/elusiveness are all great qualities to have in a WR. But adding them with actual skill makes that combination of athletic qualities lethal.
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Great thread, will read again.
Go Blue and Go Titans!
If speed was all that mattered I'd be one happy Raider fan.
Track-level speed is lovely, but not when it comes at the expense of route-running, good hands, and body control.
Now, if/when you get the guy who runs a 4.4, jumps out of the gym, runs good routes, AND can catch the ball....then you're one lucky SOB.
This post was edited by Roflcopter118 17 months ago
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Megatron is a freak of nature. Absolutely unfair. Kills me to see what we could have had if Al wasn't obsessed with Jawalrus.
Not sure, but I bet Lloyd Carr Still has nightmares of Ted Ginn II owning Michigan.
Bouldin would not have ran a 4.7 40 yard dash if he was healthy at the combine.
Why put Ted Ginn in this?He wooped your ass for three years with catching the football and running right by the Michigan defense.
This post was edited by slim6777 17 months ago
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