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New thread . . . same crazy posters
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
The only question mark we have next year is offensive line. You won't call me crazy when it happens. Our hardest games are at home. The rest of the schedue is a joke.
Stealing Sparty's recruits and owning them on the field since 1898
first one of the new thread!
This post was edited by Braintrust 20 months ago
I say just take the top 4 teams. We should stick to the original rules. Points scored is the tie breaker.
I don't mind getting left out, tiebreakers were set before the season
Yea, he consistently trolls. Like the subtle jab that winning in Spartan Stadium is "a joke" after they win by 2 points at home? They get bragging rights for a year, but I don't think either fanbase can call a road game a "gimmee" in this rivalry.
GRIII looks good against this elite competition that Michigan has been facing tonight. McGary missed a wide open layup however. This confirms that he is overrated and shouldn't be on the team imo.
i actually had to rewind that when i saw McGary miss.
I didn't see the replay but it looked like he got caught in the awkward "oh god am I close enough to dunk" mode.
Edit: Although the stream I'm using is horrible so I could be wrong.
This post was edited by hownowbrowncow 20 months ago
thats what i thought, but the way he was holding it it looked like he wanted to finger roll it in, just stuck it on the rim .
That was an awesome dunk by Horford.
Playoffs are set up. I got a solid 6th place.
This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
And '14, .
I don't think they start out 11-0, but the schedule is nice to make a run. I was thinking 7-8 wins with Morris or Bellomy at QB. With Gardner at QB, that bar is raised.
Sidenote: I think the odd years '11, '13, '15... Setup the best for Michigan. The 2 traditionally toughest teams will be home games those years, Nebraska and tOSU.
It was a babyseal opponent, but this team looked good, on offense. GR3 is the real deal. Burke is even better. Hardaway is a team player. 3 big bodies that can all play in Morgan, McGary, Horford. Lights out shooter in Stauskas. Spike giving Burke a breather.
Well this is my first post in this new thread. Just wanted to leave my mark here.
BornToBeRed said: WPS, just a head's up. We might be the most family-friendly board on the network, so take it easy on your normal wps-ness.
Gardner playing QB this year will be huge for next year. After Gardner, I agree that Lewan might be the most important player returning.
As it stands now, the tackle positions would be set with returning starters Lewan and Schofield. Michigan has to replace the whole interior oline though. I could see the interior playing out as,
LG, Kalis (RS Fresh)
C, Miller (RS Soph)
RG, Burzynski (walk-on RS Junior) or Bryant (RS Soph) or Bars (RS Fresh)
If you take out Lewan, then two more RS Fresh enter the picture as potential starters for the LT position, Magnuson or Braden. Having an oline with 4 new starters is scary, especially if 3 of them are RS Fresh.
*I left the incoming freshmen off of this, they haven't signed yet and I am hoping that they RS.
I think Gardner has potentially answered the QB question for next year, but I would still wonder about both lines, RB, and WR.
Lewan would help definitely, but it'll be an overall inexperienced group even with him. Without him, the group could really struggle.
If all of this holds water, then the team will be asking Gardner to do a lot, and potentially with bad protection. That's a recipe for injury, so how comfortable are you with Morris/Bellamy?
Ultimately, I think Gardner's size will help, along with him having been able to get on the field this year. But I still wonder who he will be throwing/handing the ball to.
laconophilia is everywhere...
Not worried about RB. Toussaint had a bad year, but is playing much better the last couple weeks. Plus Deveon Smith and potentially Derrick Green are coming to Michigan and either could push to start IMO.
Only RB leaving is 3rd down back Smith. Hayes and Norfleet will step into that role. Toussaint and Rawls will return with highly toutes Smith also coming in. There is the outside shot of Michigan also picking up one of the top backs in the nation, Green.
As for WR, Roundtree is the only senior, everyone else returns. Michigan also has a shot signing Treadwell, he could make an instant impact like Burbridge. Regardless, I like the WRs that are coming back.
TE, Moore is the only senior, and he is buried on the depth chart.
I noticed you mentioned both lines. Roh will be a loss, not so much with Campbell. Michigan has plenty of guys with experience that should step into place here, not a concern for me.
LB, Demens is the only loss. I am thinking more and more that Morgan will move over to Mike and Ross will step into the WLB position. I am sure that Bolden will have plenty to say about that, as will the freshmen coming in. Michigan is all set for 2 more years with Ryan at SLB.
Floyd is the only loss at CB, but he is also the CB that teams target the most. Michigan should be looking good with Taylor and Countess returning from his injury. Avery returns once again to man Nickel position.
FS is set with Gordon the returning starter for the 3rd year in a row. He may move over to the position vacated by Kovacs if Wilson looks good at FS. There is also Robinson waiting for his chance at SS, and highly touted Thomas coming in.
Overall, my only concerns now are at oline as stated.
You display a lot of faith, which makes sense because you're a fan. Pardon me if I still wonder.
You have 2/3 of an ineffective RB group returning.
Roundtree might be the only senior, but him and Gardner are arguably your 2 best WR's. You say you like others; well who?
You say you have experienced DL who you expect to step in, but I wonder why they haven't already. Who are you talking about?
I believe your LB's and CB's will be fine, but Safety is another question IMO. Don't underestimate the leadership that is required from the S position. Trenton Robinson was a huge loss for us despite the fact that very talented players have stepped up to replace him.
This seems like a pretty good analysis of where we should be next year. I think Lewan will have to leave after being graded out as a top-10 pick because it's far too much money to risk losing due to an injury.
I think the offensive line will look something like this.
LT: Schofield, Magnuson/Braden
LG: Bryant, Bars
C: Miller, Kugler
RG: Kalis, Burzynski
RT: Magunson/Braden, Gunderson
It could be an absolute train wreck if Lewan doesn't return.
This post was edited by jimtaco 20 months ago
Toussaint had a bad start and has picked it up recently. He was tremendous last year when the OL actually was good at blocking. Plus add Deveon Smith plus another year of development for Rawls and Hayes, we should be more than fine.
Our best WR is realistically Gallon; he returns as well as another year for Funchess, plus Dileo. Need one of the young guys to step up for sure.
How hasn't our DL stepped up already? Have you been watching our defense this year? It's been pretty solid, especially on 3rd and short or 4th and short, which means the DL is doing its job. Washington, Heitzman, the WDE rotation will give us plenty of experience. Plus add another year for Pipkins plus a lot of the DL we have brought in the last two classes, we should be fine.
Kovacs will be a huge loss, but I think we will be fine in the secondary as our CB's will be legit.
I'm holding out hope for Lewan to stay until he says he's going. Yes - he's probably gone.
I just keep telling myself Jake Long stuck around for his senior year even though he won Big Ten Lineman of the Year ahead of Joe Thomas, who eventually went 3rd in the draft that year.
Sooooo....yeah, stick around Lewan.
Wide Receivers could be better but I'm not really concerned about them being a bad personnel group
- Roundtree isn't bad, but also keep in mind he pretty much doubled his season production on Saturday.
- Gardner is a heck of a WR, but it's not like he's been a pillar of the team at WR the past two years and there's someone waiting in the wings to actually throw it to him. Hopefully one of the 6'3" WR recruits (all of them are 6'2 or 6'3 haha) from last year or two can be the big, fast, jumpy guy on the outside.
- As other posters stated, Gallon is probably our number one receiver. We know what we're getting with Gallon and he's back, so hopefully Gardner will have a nice safety blanket.
- Dileo - I don't know, he gets open and catches anything within arm's length. He's not going to ever be Braylon Edwards but he catches the ball when thrown to him.
We'll see. Landing Treadwell would help me feel a lot better about playmakers at WR.
Plus, keep in mind that Borges doesn't need his outside guy to win 1-on-1 deep every playcall. We're actually going to play a West coast offense next year, so dink and dunk short throws will happen a lot more. It's easier to have 6'2 or 6'3 guys for those routes, but it's not like Gallon and Dileo can't run them successfully.
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