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3rd and long come on D
OT-good god, iowa lost another rb today
Denard had better get it together, based on what you guys are saying here, or he's going to reeeally struggle in the B1G.
laconophilia is everywhere...
He looked fine to me. He made some pretty electric runs and threw some pretty good passes. He still needs to work on consistency, but he still looks better than last year at this point in the year.
This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
Michigan covered. I did not expect that. The takeaway for me is that the second strings looked pretty good too. Anyway, the D played a fine game (200 yards given up by end of third). Aside from the pick 6, not much concern.
I think the offense is going to be very good in the B10. I think that MSU's D will also be very good in the B10. Should be a good clash. As for the other side of the ball, neither UM nor MSU have a very good unit. Both have flaws and positives....the game on Oct. 20 will hing on whether MSU's O or UM's Defense steps it up more by then...(And I think homefield helps UM out a bit there).
EDIT: I think the Michigan offense will be good, not just because of the depth and the way they looked against over-matched UMass. But, also because Bama has't given up a point to another team this year. I stated pages ago, I think it would be a miracle if anyone left on the schedule could hold them under 21 points.
This post was edited by Peterklima 19 months ago
Good God, Arkansas is a joke.
Denard's old self is 20-9 as a starter, 13-3 the last two years. Offense will be fine with Denard. The defense, we will see if they are ready starting next week.
I just want to see more consistency out of Denard. Most of the time he seems to be making better decisions, but he still has occasional lapses (like the int today). I'd like to see those sort of problems decrease.
So you're content with holding them to 13 when UConn shut them out and Indiana held them to 6 on the road? Interesting... I'd be pretty disappointed with that, honestly.
I find it funny that you take for granted that MSU's offense is so bad when almost literally nothing has suggested that thus far. 100% based on preseason assumptions and predictions.
Is MSU world beaters on offense? No. Am I happier with MSU's offense than I would be if the defense allowed ~260 yards to a team that gained 320 yards in the first two weeks combined. UM allowed more rushing yards than Indiana did, and more rushing yards than UConn allowed total yards!
I wouldn't usually look at these types of numbers with more than a passing glance, but this type of viewpoint has been your bread and butter for why MSU isn't really that good.
Newsflash: if you think UM will compete for the division without improving Denard's passing more and/or the defense, you've got some ugly surprises coming.
I'm not sure Arkansas is the best barometer....
The defense gave up 6, not 13. UMass scored off an int.
This post was edited by hownowbrowncow 19 months ago
I caught some of it to see Denard overthrow and miss several wide open receivers
Again- didn't see most of it, just what I saw
And in other news- OSU looks very average
You have to be kidding me. The defense gave up two field goals. Nothing to be concerned about. The defense was not flawless, but it was fine.
What if I said Miami of Ohio scored almost as much on Boise as MSU did...and MSU had a home game. Would you say MSU's offense is as good as Miami's?
MSU's offense have shown some flaws (bad throws, low YPC for RBs, etc.) And so has Michigan's Defense ( some 1O- 15 yard runs allowed to UMass, playing true frosh LBs, etc.) The Michigan defense can be average to good in the B10. Their numbers look kinda bad because of playing Bama and the triple option. The offense likely will be the best in the big ten. That easily competes for the B10 title.
Oh, I'm well aware.
I just don't recall MSU's defense getting much credit from Peter for holding Boise to 6 points. So I was returning the favor.
Haha, got it.
I credit them. They are a very good defense. Might be the top in the B10 when it all shakes out. Looks that way now. Sorry if I suggested they were not on an elite level like Bama. They're not.
That's not what I'm saying. MSU's defense isn't as good as Alabama's.
I do recall, however, you discussing MSU's defense having given up 13 points to Boise. That's all I was referring to.
MSU isn't perfect, isn't the best team in the country, and will certainly encounter struggles this season. The sooner you realize that most MSU fans understand this, the sooner you'll stop sounding so arrogant and foolish.
You are a good poster. I agree with much of what you've been saying.
Sidenote: I still think Denard is a much better passer than some of you guys are giving him credit for. Obviously, we will find out in the coming weeks.
Bet glad Webb he stayed home.
Sam Webb @SamWebb77
cass tech ATH Damon Webb will NOT attempt double header. Visited #michigan, but won't make msu
This post was edited by Mitch Again 19 months ago
I figured at least one recruit would make that decision. Rather it be him than McDowell...
Doesn't matter to me. We'll land both
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