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The way I see it, MSU is an excellent program and Izzo is an elite coach.
Michigan is a very good program and Beilein is an excellent coach based on his body of work, though I can see how some would knock him down based on his March performances alone.
Michigan and Beilein are trending up.
Izzo has more career D1 wins than B___ does.
Wow, just wow. That is incredible. +1
How much crap would you give me if I grew another arm and 15 monkeys ran out of my ass playing dixie on a banjo?
We're fantasizing here right?
YOUR have been banned from reading and posting on the Michigan Wolverine board.
Why is Michigan a very good program? (serious question).
Makes me think that not enough of those 700 wins came when it matters most: in the NCAA tournament.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
That's a lot of banjos
I'm concerned about both Bama and UF. And USC. Oddly, I am less concerned with OSU. Once he takes a look at OSU's offense and Urbie's track record with WRs, I think they will slide down the list. Harris is not a Percy Harvin type recreiver. He's a true wideout. Urbie's system is not wideout friendly and BM doesn't throw very well. I am far more worried about Bama and ND and USC and even MSU than OSU.
FWIW, I'd consider making the football play-offs = to a FF. Getting there is an accomplishment in of itself. If Hoke has 6 play-off appearances and 1 NC, then he's a ridiculously good coach.
Interesting that it's very possible that Dantonio will finish the 2013 football season with a winning record against Hoke (including 5 of the last 7 vs UM).
Starts to make you think, huh?
This post was edited by CaliSpartan0606 18 months ago
I'd laugh and point. Is it really that difficult to answer a hypothetical question?
UF's passing game is awful as well.
Yea, I'm not exactly concerned with UF either; their recent WR history has been horrible and their passing O worse than even MSU's this past year, despite SEC SPEED. They certainly couldn't get going through the air vs. Louisville.
tOSU is no longer a WR-friendly O.
Bama and USC are the biggest competitors to me. Both have pro-style O's with a recent run of success with WRs.
Hopefully USC will be out of the running due to questions about Kiffin's job security.
True. I believe Coach Beilein is at 401 and Coach Izzo is at 428.
You're entitled to think whatever you want.
I'm sure as a recruit the visits to a Florida school are full of improper benefits; bags of cash, trollops and parties. I'm sure its worth the visit, but you commit else where.
Here you go, I love these:
Izzo vs. the conference.
Conference Championships: Izzo 7 The field 10 ( A losing record but damn, not bad)
*Big Ten Tourn. Champs Izzo 3 The field 10 ( some of you are saying 12 but Michigan and OSU vacated two Izzo still is tied with three for the lead)
*Sweet 16's: Izzo 10 The field 22 (OSU, Wis with five Ill with 4, Purdue with 3)
Elite 8's: Izzo 7 The field 5 (Jesus, the whole fricken field)
Final 4's: Izzo 6 The field 5 (that's sick)
Championship games Izzo 2 the Field 3
Championships Izzo 1 The field 0
Final Fours by coaches.
. John Wooden - 12
John Wooden took UCLA to 12 Final Fours and won 10 NCAA Championships including 7 in a row from 1967 to 1973.
T-2. Mike Krzyzewski - 11
Mike Krzyzewski has taken Duke to 11 Final Fours and won 4 NCAA Championships (1991, 1992, 2001, 2010).
T-2. Dean Smith - 11
Dean Smith took the University of North Carolina to 11 Final Fours and won two NCAA Championships in 1982 and 1993.
4. Roy Williams - 7
Roy Williams took the Kansas Jayhawks to 4 Final Fours and the North Carolina Tar Heels to 3 Final Fours. He has won two championships at North Carolina in 2003 and 2009.
5. Tom Izzo - 6
Izzo took Michigan State to 6 final fours in 12 years. Unmatched by Williams, K, Smith.
Elite. Not even debatable.
None. You have more than enough crap already, 15 monkeys just walked out of your ass.
Wow how old is b______?
"As far as the downvotes. It's a gnat biting an lion"
-- A member of tRCMB Justice League, taking the internet WAY WAY too seriously.
Yea, don't know when these pages have been updated but Wikipedia says
Izzo: 425-172 (.712)
B___: 400–252 (.613)
Also note B__ has 3 more years coaching at the D1 level (about 90-100 games worth), so even though the total #'s seem close- Izzo would be real close to 500 if he started at the same time as B___.
You can't reach 5 out of the last 7 unless you count RR's games. Hoke has only been the HC at Michigan for two years. Sounds like you need to borrow some of Steve's fingers.
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