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Do you have the raw numbers of how many 3* and 2* recruits are graded each year by scout? Should be simple to find out, I thought they always had the same number. Also, you yourself have pointed out several times how different the sites are when it comes to grading out kids. One =/= the other.
It's ok Cope, these numbers don't matter in the end.
I have no idea the raw numbers
I do know that Scout showed a similar correlation to the increase in MSU's classes, just like Rivals shows
So feel free to peddle your theory however you want knowing that it's false.
Maybe it's all coincidence, and I am sure you see it that way. Can you tell me about the Michigan bump again? The evidence you presented yesterday was so compelling.
I'm not seeing it as coincidence. I'm seeing it as Dantonio's classes have increased in "star" rating over the past few seasons. You're attempting to discount that by a theory that's already been proven obsolete by taking another independent set of rankings and showing you the same correlation exists.
I know it was.. provided 6-7 examples, just from the '13 class alone that showed an increase in rating/rankings a short period after committing to UM.
As you said though, these numbers don't matter in the end.
This post was edited by CaliSpartan0606 12 months ago
I hope they did.
Kids tend to improve as they play more. Some more than others.
My God, you have talked about how the sites are so different from each other and now you are going to say that they line up enough to prove something. You're all over the place on this. You're either an idiot or you are changing your stance to fit what you need at the time. Probably both. The numbers are there, keep telling us they are a coincidence. I am done with you on this.
Oh, so they waited to see them play more games before they got that "bump" from whoever. I thought they got it when they signed. I have no idea how that stuff works. What, they were junior 3 stars signed at MSU and the following year during their senior were up graded?
I have no idea how it works either. But some players improve more than others (growth spurts, late bloomers etc) so rankings are bound to change.
Saying "did they get better somehow" is pretty dumb.
If a high schooler isn't improving the more he plays and is coached, he's probably not a player you want on your team.
I sarcastically said it because i assumed ( wrongly it appears now) that they got a bump right away without playing a down of regulation football between going from a three to a four. - now that would be stupid, don't you think?
You've said they played and improved and I assume were re-scouted and then re-assigned stars. That makes way more sense to me. I didn't know that was the deal.
Yes as a coach I've noticed some players improve over time
This post was edited by DWags 12 months ago
Currently on the RCMB for you Michigan guys who are addicted to it. in an ESPN titled thread two RCMB members are so mad at each other they've challenged each other to an Oklahoma drill at a tailgate. It's very promising.
Please tell me it's Cope and Nigel and they're arguing over recruiting rankings.
You are inferring MSU's classes got better rankings because of 500 or so more dudes that got rated 3stars
I'm showing that same increase happening across another independent service.
There's nothing to debate.. your attempt to discount the improving classes by Dantonio are futile and incorrect as shown by actual facts. Not to mention, you can't prove how many, of the 500, ended up going to MSU, which makes your stance even more
From MGoBlog ttalking about the WRs and TEs brought in last year and so far for this class. Bye bye slot ninjas.
"By the way, Michigan pass targets in the last two classes go 6'7", 6'6, 6'4", 6'4, 6'4", 6'3", 6'2", and 6'2."
Well, we know UM doesn't recruit WR for speed..
"They seem to be big on size, but lack elite speed. hat doesn't concern receivers coach Jeff Hecklinski. "Speed is overrated," he said last week. "
Michigan's receiver recruits seem to be big on size, but lean on speed. That doesn't concern receivers coach Jeff Hecklinski.
If you go back to the 2012 class, the TEs and WRs for that class were, 6'6", 6'4", 6'3", and 6'2". If Michigan gets a commitment/signature from Artavis Scott, he would be the first WR under 6'2" that Hoke has brought in.
Chesson has some serious speed, and Harris has decent wheels as well. Also, he said overrated, not unimportant. Running fast isn't enough as a WR.
Al Davis disagreed Granted, Al Davis was wrong.
Darboh's not slow either. Speed is important, but it's often overrated because we are dealing in hundreds of a second and it takes much more than speed to make a great WR. Sparty knows better than most that a WR who can't catch isn't worth much no matter how fast he runs.
Sparty also knows that a defense can cut the size of a football field down and while speed is great, even if you're faster then a Jamaican you can be stopped in space.
Come to Jamaica!
Coach Heck is right.
Braylon wasn't that fast. I think he did alright...because he was huge. Jaren Hayes knows.
I coached track and went against Braylon and Darnell hood at bishop Gallagher. He was very fast.
Setting up unofficial for next month
His OV will be for UM game
Sugar Shane 2.0?
**Chicago (Ill.) Mount Carmel defensive tackle Enoch Smith Jr. pulled the trigger and committed to MSU last weekend. Since then, he’s been working on several other prospects from the state of Illinois.
“Personally, a couple guys I plan on going after are Jamarco Jones, Parker Westphal, Nyles Morgan and Chris James,” Smith said. “I’m also going to try to get Clifton Garrett to go green with me. Those are just some of the guys I’m going to try to recruit.”
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