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It could be damn near impossible since there is no chance that the team will improve under Hoke. 8-5 is probably the ceiling at this point imo. After all, Hoke hasn't proven he can win 10+ games since the 2011 season.
Looking more and more like this thread has run its course until fall practice.
Congrats to Taylor Lewan for getting drafted in the first round two years in a row.
"As far as the downvotes. It's a gnat biting an lion"
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The boys on those first three have conference rings to show. The last two... Not so much.
YOUR have been banned from reading and posting on the Michigan Wolverine board.
So let's say Da'Shawn Hand commits to Michigan. Where would the Michigan bump put him at? 6* or 7*.
Cope, could you enlighten us?
Doesn't this kid have big time offers like Bama?
Don't know about that, but no way he wasn't first pick this year over fisher. He could be #1 next year but things have to really fall into place. To give that up isn't easy. I wonder if there are any second thoughts. Where gholston and sims have to be thinking "bad choice" in the other direction. Most real football observers ITT knew Bell was the best back in the league last year despite the foolish stats thrown around about him by some. Just watch the game, it's easy to pick that out.
This post was edited by DWags 15 months ago
Seems to be a pretty hypothetical question there not worthy of a response
Sims and Gholston go in the 4th round, to Miami and Tampa Bay respectively.
No flame here, but has anyone from UM been drafted? Outside of Shoelace, who are the draftables?
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
I'm going to be shocked if San Fran doesn't use one on shoelace.
You sound surprised. Why, I don't know. You could have looked at any number of mock draft boards over the past couple of months. Or you simply could have listened to the UM posters iTT who have consistently told you how poorly RR recruited and developed players. We have been struggling on the field since 2008 due to a lack of talent. It's also why 2013 and beyond look very bright to most UM fans. On net, the talent coming in under Coach Hoke far exceeds the talent we've been losing. Other than Denard, who was injured half of last season anyway, we haven't lost much at all from last year's team. We are going to be a much improved team on both sides of the ball this year.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrWoodson 15 months ago
Nope, Jacksonville, 5th round.
cupboard was bare
Heard the same thing when Carr left too
Only from RR.
Hoke's a GD miracle worker by winning 8 games while having no draft worthy kids.
My God the future looks ridiculously bright.
But look how RR developed Lewan. He has to get credit for that.
Oh wait, that only works one way, my bad.
Guys like Jake Ryan, Lewan and Schofield will be drafted. You're also seeing that NFL draft talent does not always = college success.
Taylor Lewan has been in AA four years, the first two under RR and the last two under Hoke. I will give RR credit for signing him. I never said RR recruited no talent. He recruited Denard. He recruited Gardner. He recruited Gallon. But it's hard to find a whole lot of NFL talent in RR's classes.
So your theory is that Michigan is getting the same players they always have, but Hoke and RR couldn't develop them properly?
Jake Ryan's another one. Again, no one said RR recruited absolutely no talent. But the classes were well below average talent-wise for UM. Also, too many undersized players on both sides of the ball. RR traded size for speed and small players often struggle making it to the next level.
How is it a back peddle? You brought up Lewan, but Lewan only played one season under RR vs. two under Hoke. I gave RR credit for recruiting him, but it's a stretch to claim RR developed him into an All American. At best, he shares some credit with Hoke, but something tells me if you asked Lewan directly he wouldn't credit RR for very much of his success.
Back back back goes woody.
Will Campbell to the Jets!
Hoke did a great job turning around his career.
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