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  • SpartanTailgate

    Btothejizer

    mriderblue12 said... (original post)

    Aaron Gordon can actually pass the ball and make plays for others.

    Gordon is going to be a bust unless he learns to shoot also, but he's still shown a lot more of a rounded game than Dawson.

    Dawson has shown to be a good rebounder and finisher, but the jump in athleticism will neutralize a lot of that.

    He will go 2nd round when its his time imo.

    Agree BJ is too small for his game to translate to the NBA right now. He needs a jumpshot, Izzo said he developed one seemingly overnight while he was out with the hand. We'll see next year if that's for real.

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    DWags

    Cuba Gooding Jr said... (original post)

    That's definitely what made Stauskas different from a lot of the classic Big Ten 3-point aces. Dude created his shot opportunities. Or in some cases, failed to create a shot opportunity, but took a shot and made it anyway.

    Hadn't even heard of Martell Pettaway, weird.

    lol

    South Lake is the school my wife graduated from. The linemen MSU wants is from there. It cracks me up. South Lake is on 9 mile which is the new 8 mile. It's 3 miles from Grosse Pointe North That school for the 20 years I've lived on the east side sucked in football. Still isn't that great. In the 80's you either played tennis golf or hockey there. I'm going to have to check this kid out next year. They still aren't very good in football. They make the playoffs but so do a lot of teams.

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  • DWags said... (original post)

    lol

    South Lake is the school my wife graduated from. The linemen MSU wants is from there. It cracks me up. South Lake is on 9 mile which is the new 8 mile. It's 3 miles from Grosse Pointe North That school for the 20 years I've lived on the east side sucked in football. Still isn't that great. In the 80's you either played tennis golf or hockey there. I'm going to have to check this kid out next year. They still aren't very good in football. They make the playoffs but so do a lot of teams.

    2nd year in coaching back in college I coached for a team that wasn't very good. Had a FR though that was all of 6'4" and still growing. Had a good, natural, thick build, long arms, pretty good feet. Probably could have been a low level D1 type player if he could get a bit more aggressive (his dad played D1 football in the B1G). Problem is, the team around him was pretty bad. It was a soccer and basketball school, and a lot of parents that wanted everyone to get a trophy. That mentality was passed down to the students, and it was just a tough position to be in overall.

    Only coached one more year at that school before moving on. Occasionally I'd check the recruiting sites to see if maybe he would show up as an UR or 2-star type, but never did find him. In those situations, it takes more than just having potential to step up and become a good recruit that someone like MSU wants to pick up.

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  • Scoring a lot of points in a game doesn't make one a good player btw. And nor does putting up 10 PPG on a terrible team.

    Also since when does Corey brewers game and Dawson have similarities? Because they both can't shoot? Their games and numbers aren't similar in college whatsoever.

    Dawson is an athlete who can play in the paint and defend. He's going to need a lot more than that to succeed. If he improves his game, then sure. But he wasn't a first rounder this year.

    Sorry that the reality check on Dawson has hurt your feelings.

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  • While we are in the spirit of making terrible player comparisons based off nothing to do with actual basketball skills.

    Jan Veesly, Joe Alexander, Hakeem Warrick.

    Dawson automatically sucks, just look at those dudes!!!

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  • Btothejizer said... (original post)

    Agree BJ is too small for his game to translate to the NBA right now. He needs a jumpshot, Izzo said he developed one seemingly overnight while he was out with the hand. We'll see next year if that's for real.

    Dawson is a heck of a college player for sure. And if he develops a consistent jumper to go with his defence and athleticism, he can definitely be a first round pick and a solid player on the next level.

    He's just not there yet.

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    DWags

    BeerBaron said... (original post)

    2nd year in coaching back in college I coached for a team that wasn't very good. Had a FR though that was all of 6'4" and still growing. Had a good, natural, thick build, long arms, pretty good feet. Probably could have been a low level D1 type player if he could get a bit more aggressive (his dad played D1 football in the B1G). Problem is, the team around him was pretty bad. It was a soccer and basketball school, and a lot of parents that wanted everyone to get a trophy. That mentality was passed down to the students, and it was just a tough position to be in overall.

    Only coached one more year at that school before moving on. Occasionally I'd check the recruiting sites to see if maybe he would show up as an UR or 2-star type, but never did find him. In those situations, it takes more than just having potential to step up and become a good recruit that someone like MSU wants to pick up.

    It's really true about schools that are "soft" and those schools that push each other. It's not surprising you see some schools put more then one player into D1 and some schools will never put a player there. Sure individuals can make it and often do, but it helps having teammates that push you.

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  • DWags said... (original post)

    lol

    In the 80's you either played tennis golf or hockey there.

    I wish my HS would have had a tennis team. If so, I would have pulled off the trifecta.

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