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Hoo's, if you bring in TOB is this a one year turn over from London to TOB? And that would be an odd situation for London to have a guy that is clearly a much better coach standing over him.
Seems to me TOB can sit back and collect State's money and be in good position to get the UVA head coaching gig next year if he wants it....unless he wants to stick it to State and doesn't want to sit at home and spend time with his wife for a year.
I think they would consider bringing in OB in to help London's development, I don't see it as an over the shoulder wondering if he was going to lose his job. I think this would be a homerun hire if they could pull it off. That and the possiblity of bringing in Dana Bible as well shocked me this morning.
This post was edited by PlayaHtr 18 months ago
WAHOO 4 LIFE!!
Tickle is that you?
Makes me miss livining in VA.
It's not about where you're from, it's about what you've done..
Yea I have a buddy that was neighbors with the guy that was on that moonshiner show on TV.
This post was edited by vtfan 90 18 months ago
Well played +1
Pep made over 600k last year at Stanford. I know that for a fact.
All these coaching rumors are beyond bizarre to me. I can't get my head around Pep wanting to leave an incredible situation in Palo Alto where he works for a great guy that has loads of long term potential and job security any moreso than I can figure out why Obie at 65 years old would want to come be an Associate Head Coach. Love his personality or hate it, he's won a lot more than he's lost and runs a clean program. There are head coaching jobs out there for guys like that.
I'm sure Hamilton has job security and Stanford is a great university but it's no secret Shaw will likely stay there for a very long time. Also, add in the fact Shaw is an offensive guy, I'm sure he has his say with regards to calling plays etc... I don't think it's a stretch to think Hamilton wouldn't consider coming to Blacksburg and being THE man on offense. It's two hours from home, about 4 hours from DC......the cost of living in Palo Alto is almost double that of Blacksburg (so his $600K translates to a little more than $300K) and the median cost for housing in Palo Alto is 5 times more than Blacksburg. From a career standpoint, Hamilton knows that Beamer is near the end of his career so it's far more likely he could succeed Beamer as HC....contrast this to the situation at Stanford. Unless Shaw were to leave, which is unlikely, Hamilton would have to go somewhere else anyway to become a HC.
As far as TOB is concerned, maybe he'd rather step away from being the HC for now and take on more of a supporting role where he doesn't have to field questions from boosters, the media etc...a little less stressful.
Hahaha so bringing in a coach to coach up the crappy coach that you have...sounds like a plan to me.
I used to make trips to my buddy's place in Franklin County. They had the best White Whiskey. When the shine was in, the clothes where drying on the clothes-line under their front porch. They would keep the clothes on the line through rain/sleet/snow until the batch was gone. They used to make a special "tea" too.. Man I miss that stuff, but alas, I get drug checked
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Nomad Chad 18 months ago
It's UVA's decision, I just said I supported it. Yeah it's sounds so crazy it might just work. It's no secret he's made some questionable decision at times, I don't think having O'Brien on the sideline will hurt. That's what I meant about developing London.
If London is so poor of a coach that he needs TOB to come in and coach him up, why wouldn't you just fire London and make TOB the HC? Seems much more logical to me.
Sorry I edited the earlier post and tried to explain in a little more detail. Maybe he can keep London's emotions more in check on the sideline.
Also TOB has a non compete where he can't be an ACC coach until 2015. But from what I have seen he is working on a buyout on that part of his NC State contract.
It's pretty funny...but it isn't a bad idea, unless you are London and you realize that you need a coach to be a coach. But he likely has been put on notice by being made to fire 4 coaches, that he obviously didn't agree with...and you do what you need to do to keep getting paid 2.6 million a year for a job you are not qualified for....and if he was qualified they wouldn't need a coach for him.
The entire UVA program could learn a lot from TOB if they are willing to do what he knows is the right thing, and will likely tell them...that is not promising PT, RS kids when they should be, not burning bridges to get one recruit. TOB would be an interesting hire because he will say it like it is and not get a F, don't like it, fire me, he doesn't need the money and could get another job when ever he wants it.
It's also pretty ironic London needs an old white guy to teach him how to coach
Some of you act like London can't coach a lick, that's not true, he's made his mistakes but he's also made some good decisions as well. The one thing about London that concerns me though is not owning up for the mistake he made in Blacksburg by not using his timeouts and forcing the field goal earlier. I was pretty sure he was going to make the FG regardless but at least would have loved to have 1:05 to try and either tie it back up. Him saying the talent gap was closing at the end of a game he could have won had he coached it better bothered me quite a bit. I would have much rather him take the blame himself and that it be a lesson learned. Who knows if those thoughts have changed since the end of that game to now. i sure hope so.
Please enlighten us.
Even Les Miles was screaming at the tv for London to call a timeout.
I have to agree with you on London's response. If coaching football doesn't work out, there's always politics.
Excerpt from David Teel article:
Question: “Sorry to revisit this, but with 50 seconds to go, (Virginia defensive tackle Chris) Brathwaite goes off the field with an injury. If you had used two timeouts there, you could have conceivably gotten the ball back with 40-some seconds to go. Instead, they kick a field goal on the last play of the game. The clock management there, it just doesn’t compute to me.”
Answer : “I’d have to go back and look at that again. I’m trying to remember the sequence of the events and the information that I’m getting from upstairs and all that. When I do, and if I do, then I’ll definitely talk to you about how that played out.”
He then got back to Teel and stated his train of thought. That based on the prior missed FG and the fact that we hadn't moved the ball at all and we'd be attempting a FG into the wind, that our odds were better that a play could be made on defense (see Duke/Cincy) or Journell would just miss. Now, I understand that logic. I just don't really agree with it. I think you need to at least give your offense a shot but it is what it is.
Put me in the shocked camp that Obrien is a done deal. The thread on Hokie Scoop is kind of funny. Lot's of people ignoring the fact that the UVa staff just got A LOT better while also ignoring the fact that Obie and London have a great relationship. We also just put a stop gap in place should Lazor decide to bolt to the NFL. Although I love Shawn Moore and don't understand why he was dismissed, it's hard to ignore the fact that we hired a guy with 35 years more coaching experience than he had.
Regardless of how good a coach tob this is great fodder for us fans...for MANY reasons
Fodder is fine. That's what makes these things fun.
I'm really liking the potential make up of this staff. A very nice balance of coaches and recruiters.
I agree, but 2 of the hats are on the wrong heads.
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